[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-4 - Staff Assessment
David Farmer
farmer at umn.edu
Thu Oct 9 10:12:14 EDT 2008
Yes, they are not part of the Caribbean, anyone with the slightest grasp of
geography gets that thanks to Leo's interesting tidbits.
I guess the important question is, does anyone believe that the population
and economic rationale used to justify this policy wouldn't apply equally to
these islands just as much, if not more, than the Caribbean Region?
These couple handfuls of islands are not going to cause am implosion of the
route table. Why would we want to have to come back later to add them?
How would we explain to anyone form one of these islands why the
Caribbean Region qualifies and they don't?
There are probably even regions of the US and Canada that could qualify,
the near attic for instance, but crossing that line will require a much more
careful definition that would likely bog down an important policy. Therefore
let's not do that. But, I think it is fairly easy to craft a definition that would
include this assortment of islands without much danger of abuse.
I support this important policy and call for the inclusion of these other
miscellaneous islands.
David Farmer
On 9 Oct 2008 Ray Plzak wrote:
> None of these islands are in the Caribbean area or members of any
> Caribbean related organization and thus this policy would not apply to
> them.
>
> Ray
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> > Behalf Of Scott Leibrand
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 17:08
> > To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 2008-4 - Staff Assessment
> >
> > Does staff's understanding of the geographic applicability of this
> > policy
> > proposal match the intent of the authors and supporters? I'm not sure
> > whether the Bouvet Islands, US Minor Outlying Islands, St Pierre and
> > Miquelon, Heard and McDonald Islands and/or St Helena fit within the
> > intended scope or not...
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > Member Services wrote:
> > > Policy Proposal: 2008-4
> > > Title: Minimum Allocation in the Caribbean Region
> > > Revised: 18 August 2008
> > > Assessment: 8 October 2008
> > >
> > > ARIN Staff Assessment
> > >
> > > The assessment of this proposal includes comments from ARIN staff and
> > > the ARIN General Counsel. It contains analysis of procedural, legal,
> > and
> > > resource concerns regarding the implementation of this policy
> > proposal
> > > as it is currently stated. Any changes to the language of the
> > proposal
> > > may necessitate further analysis by staff and Counsel.
> > >
> > > I. Proposal
> > >
> > > Policy Proposal is available below and at:
> > > http://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2008_4.html
> > >
> > > II. Proposal Summary
> > >
> > > ARIN staff understands that this policy would lower the minimum
> > > allocation size to a /22 for ISPs in the Caribbean region. The ARIN
> > > Caribbean service area consists of the locations listed at
> > > http://www.arin.net/community/ARINcountries.html, with the exception
> > of
> > > the US, Canada, Antarctica, Bouvet Islands, US Minor Outlying
> > Islands,
> > > St Pierre and Miquelon, Heard and McDonald Islands and St Helena.
> > >
> > > III. Comments
> > >
> > > A. ARIN Staff
> > >
> > > 1. Staff foresees no implementation problems with this policy.
> > > 2. End-users are excluded from this policy which might be viewed as
> > > offering an unfair advantage to ISPs in the region.
> > >
> > > B. ARIN General Counsel
> > >
> > > Counsel sees no significant legal or litigation risk regarding this
> > policy.
> > >
> > >
> > > IV. Resource Impact - Minimal
> > >
> > > The resource impact of implementing this policy is viewed as minimal.
> > > Barring any unforeseen resource requirements, this policy could be
> > > implemented within 30 - 90 days from the date of the ratification of
> > the
> > > policy by the ARIN Board of Trustees. It will require the following:
> > >
> > > * Updates to Guidelines will be required
> > > * Staff training will be required
> > > * Updates to the ARIN web page of the "List of Countries in ARIN's
> > > Geographical Areas" to indicate which countries are considered part
> > of
> > > the Caribbean region will be required.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Member Services
> > > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> > >
> > >
> > > #####
> > >
> > >
> > > Policy Proposal 2008-4
> > > Minimum Allocation in the Caribbean Region
> > >
> > > Author: Cathy Aronson and Paul Andersen
> > >
> > > Date: 18 August 2008
> > >
> > > Proposal type: new
> > >
> > > Policy term: renewable
> > >
> > > Policy statement:
> > >
> > > Add the following as section 4.8 of NRPM:
> > >
> > > 4.8. Minimum Allocation. The minimum IPv4 allocation size for ISPs
> > from
> > > the Caribbean portion of the ARIN region is /22.
> > >
> > > 4.8.1. Allocation Criteria.
> > >
> > > * The requesting organization must show the efficient
> > > utilization of an entire previously allocated /22 from their
> > > upstream ISP. This allocation (/22) may have been provided
> > > by an ISP's upstream provider(s), and does not have to be
> > > contiguous address space. The organization must meet the
> > > requirement of efficient use of 4 /24s.
> > >
> > > * A multi-homed organization must show the efficient
> > > utilization of an entire previously allocated /23 from their
> > > upstream ISP. This allocation (/23) may have been provided
> > > by an ISP's upstream provider(s), and does not have to be
> > > contiguous address space. The organization must meet the
> > > requirement of efficient use of 2 /24s.
> > >
> > > * Utilization Reporting and Justification. All other ARIN
> > > policies regarding the reporting of justification information
> > > for the allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 address space will remain
> > > in effect.
> > >
> > > Rationale:
> > >
> > > ARIN staff have noted that organizations in the Caribbean region have
> > > problems meeting the current criteria due to the fact that the
> > > population in the region is smaller than that of Canada and the US.
> > > There is also a lack of competition with many countries in the region
> > > faced with a monopoly or duopoly situation in terms of transport
> > providers.
> > >
> > > To spur development in the region a similar proposal was passed in
> > this
> > > region for the portion of the African region that ARIN administered
> > > prior to the formation of AfriNIC. This proposal seeks a similar
> > outcome.
> > >
> > > Timetable for implementation: immediate
> > >
> > > Revisions Made:
> > >
> > > * 2008-4.02 - Minor edit to specify proposed NRPM section number
> > >
> > >
> > >
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