[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: IPv4 Recovery Fund

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Mon Nov 24 16:06:42 EST 2008

The community will survive just fine through the IPv4 runout..  at least
as well as it will if there is a reclamation effort..  the whole
reclamation issue is a red herring that hides the real issue.  The
imperative to manage IPv4 runout is illusionary.

It is rather like your home budget when you are laid off..  income is
reduced but you are pretty much at the same expenditure level, you can
stretch things out by robbing Peter to pay Paul, but in reality all you
are doing is digging a deeper hole.  The thing you really need to do is
find a new job (IPv6).  Of course you have the option of reducing
expenditures, but that really does little to prepare for the future when
unemployment insurance (IPv4) ceases to come in.

ARIN is doing a great job now.  I believe they will continue to do so
and will do what it takes to serve the community.  I do not see the
imperative to change anything.  Efforts to manage IPv4 are just going to
forestall the inevitable, and not significantly.

Right now we have a great organization with ARIN.  They are
administering the IP pool at a very nominal cost and granting great
freedom to the community.  Implementations to allow IP brokerage will
likely destroy that service, and at a cost which IMHO is too great for
the community to bear.  

My vision for the future is basically that we don't need to do anything
exotic, just continue with the good job that is being done now.  Change
for the sake of change seldom does good.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eliot Lear [mailto:lear at cisco.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:58 PM
> To: Kevin Kargel
> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: IPv4 Recovery Fund
> On 11/24/08 6:23 PM, Kevin Kargel wrote:
> > The pool will exist as it does today...  Even if the pool is empty
> > is still a pool...
> >
> If your goal is to NOT reclaim IPv4 addresses, fair enough.  There is
> demonstrated inability of ARIN to reclaim any substantial amount of
> addresses, and the problem is not limited to ARIN, but impacts other
> RIRs as well.  Good will just isn't what it used to be, I guess.
> However, you claimed a community interest and I would like to
> why you think the community is best served in your vision of the
> Or do you find it sufficient to attack other peoples' visions?
> Eliot

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