[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: IPv4 Recovery Fund

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Sat Nov 22 17:05:28 EST 2008

On Nov 22, 2008, at 1:27 PM, David Farmer wrote:

> On 22 Nov 2008 Leo Bicknell wrote:
>> In a message written on Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 01:25:36PM -0600,  
>> Randy Bush wrote:
>>> rpki
>> I admire the work you and others are doing, and I'd like to see it
>> move forward.  I have yet to see any reason why it would be sane
>> to base a transfer policy on full deployment of RPKI.  The fact of
>> the matter is ARIN resource holders do not have RPKI certificates;
>> and even if that process were started today the vetting to issue
>> certificates to some groups of people (e.g. Legacy Holders) is
>> likely to take years.
> Why is the vetting needed to issue and RPKI certificate any more or  
> less
> than would needed to bless a transfer or the return of a resource?
It isn't.

>> At this point I think baseing any transfer policy decisions on the
>> existance of RPKI is foolish.
> I'd agree with not wanting to link one with the other, but the  
> vetting that is
> necessary for transfer, return of resource to ARIN for  
> redistribution, or RPKI
> is mostly equivalent.
Depending on RPKI for an open transfer process in the wild west would
require that everyone still wanting to issue a meaningful route has been
vetted. Depending on vetting to effectuate a particular transfer can  

It's not an effort issue, but, one of timing.


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