[arin-ppml] Is this more desired than a Transfer Policy? Need input

Milton L Mueller mueller at syr.edu
Sat Nov 15 23:47:22 EST 2008

This proposal doesn't really deal with the problem. Yes, some better
reclamation policies need to be instituted, but the real problem is not
"abandoned" resources. It is:1) underutilized resources that the holder
has no incentive to give up, and many strong incentives not to give up;
and 2) shifting addresses from lower-valued uses to higher valued ones
on an ongoing basis. 


But this proposal is a good example of the kind of trouble into which a
few members' irrational marketo-phobia is going to get ARIN. In order to
avoid the so-called horrors of bilateral exchanges of address resources
among willing parties, you propose to create an army of snitches -- most
of whom will be, no doubt, as self-interested and economically motivated
as any address trader would have been. The process of monitoring these
claims of abandonment is going to make a simple market look oh, so


Sooner or later we learn that economic incentives are real and will find
a way to manifest themselves. Institutions either channel them in
constructive directions or they channel them into bizarre ways. 


Now will someone explain to me why it is intrinsically evil to benefit
from selling addresses but good to collect a "finders compensation?" Or
is this really a satirical post that has some sly fun with the
ideological blinkers that seem to exist in ARIN?  







From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
Behalf Of Azinger, Marla
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:16 PM
To: ppml at arin.net
Subject: [arin-ppml] Is this more desired than a Transfer Policy? Need


Hello-  This is a second run of the email Jason and I sent out during
the last ARIN meeting.  We wanted to send out a possible policy route
that ARIN could do opposed to using any form of an Emergency Transfer
Market.  We need to see input/feedback on ppml for this.  Specifically
if this is an avenue you would or would not want to see ARIN take in
place of a Transfer Policy/Market.  If we don't get feedback on ppml we
will dump this idea.  If we do get feedback in a manor that shows
interest then Jason and I will officially submit this policy proposal
and then work with the community on revising any aspects that aren't
completely appealing or decisively good for the community.     Thank you
Marla Azinger and Jason Schiller



Please be advised that this is a suggested new section to NRPM in
addition to keeping the current section 4.6 Voluntary Partial Returns
and Amnesty.  



Name: Active Reclamation of abandoned number resources



This policy addresses the following:

1.	Find, reclaim and re-use unused number resources. 
2.	Give incentive to keep unused number resources out of the black
3.	Assist ARIN in cleaning up the database. 
4.	Provide an incentive to self identify and return unused
5.	Increase efficient utilization of ARIN number resources. 
6.	Help ease the transition to IPv6. 
7.	Help ensure fair re-distribution of resources to those who need


NRPM#: Active Reclamation of abandoned number resources 

ARIN will actively investigate and ensure abandoned ARIN number
resources including legacy resources that are under ARIN management are
returned to the ARIN address pool for recirculation.  Any one may submit
a report of abandonment for ARIN to investigate.  ARIN may investigate
abandonment without a report when ARIN has reason to believe it has been


ARIN can use their discretion to determine if someone is abusing this
policy by submitting multiple reports with poor evidence of abandonment.
This will result in a loss of claim to all reports currently in progress
by the perceived abuser  ARIN has the right to reject investigation
requests if they deem the reporting entity is abusing the policy.


Addresses that are squatted and efficiently used will be granted amnesty
if the addresses are self reported, back billing is reconciled and any
applicable RSA is signed.  Partial returns and amnesty can be granted to
squatted addresses under this policy.


          Management of abandoned number resources

-ARIN will keep a Lost Property Office via a direct link from the main
ARIN website.  

-ARIN will publicly list all number resources that are reported
abandoned on the Lost Property Office site and the status of the
investigation.  Stats of recovered space through the abandoned number
resources will be provided bi-annually at the ARIN Members Meetings.

- ARIN will take measures to identify a chain of custody or successor in
interest to the last known POC.  If the successor is determined, the
block will be transferred to the successor under current ARIN policy.  

- If the number resources are not valid for transfer to the successor
and the original finder is not eligible to receive the number resources
then the block will be added back into the ARIN address pool for re-use.

-The original "finder" is eligible for receipt of the addresses if they
are currently eligible per ARIN policy to receive more addresses and the
addresses are not transferred to a chain of custody that was discovered
during investigation.

- If an investigation reveals a successor who is unaware of their number
resources, ARIN can decide if there is good faith and sufficient
justification for the successor to keep the resources. Partial returns
and amnesty can be granted to sucessors for blocks revealed in and
investigation under this policy.

-Before ARIN re-uses allegedly abandoned resources ARIN will work with
ISP's to route these resources no less than 90 days in order to validate
they are not in use.

-The original "finder" will receive a "finders" compensation for the
listing when either resolution occurs.  *For example a credit could be
put towards their annual fees.

-To report an abandoned block, send a request for investigation via the
Abandoned Block Template. 

          Examples of Abandoned number resources:

          - Unused Legacy (e.g. swamp)

          -Business failure and the number resources are not currently
assigned nor in use.

          -Bad recordkeeping by an otherwise functional entity.

          -Squatted space that is not self reported.


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