[arin-ppml] Is this more desired than a Transfer Policy? Need input

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Thu Nov 13 21:06:35 EST 2008

It was my understanding that ARIN's official position was that all address
space allocated,
including legacy space, is valid, and as such it's impossible for abandonded
IP space to
even exist at all.
For non-legacy space, continued payments from the orgs that were allocated
that space
should be evidence of validity.  Thus, this embryonic proposal really only
concerns the
legacy holders.
In my view this is a fundamental chance to the status of the so-called
Legacy IP numbers.
I feel that by labeling this NRPM the way you are doing, you are attempting
to sidestep
the issue of Legacy Holders currently having special dispensation at ARIN.
While I am not opposed to reclamation of abandonded numbers, I would prefer
that before
ARIN launches into modifying the NRPM to include "abandonded IP numbering"
that the NRPM was modified to more specifically define the responsibilities
of the Legacy
Holders to ARIN.
There seems to be a lot of disagreement as to that ARIN owes the Legacy
Holders and
what the Legacy Holders owe ARIN at this time.  Could we make these
more transparent in the NRPM before giving a blank check to ARIN to launch
into abandonment

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
Behalf Of Azinger, Marla
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:16 PM
To: ppml at arin.net
Subject: [arin-ppml] Is this more desired than a Transfer Policy? Need input

Hello-  This is a second run of the email Jason and I sent out during the
last ARIN meeting.  We wanted to send out a possible policy route that ARIN
could do opposed to using any form of an Emergency Transfer Market.  We need
to see input/feedback on ppml for this.  Specifically if this is an avenue
you would or would not want to see ARIN take in place of a Transfer
Policy/Market.  If we don't get feedback on ppml we will dump this idea.  If
we do get feedback in a manor that shows interest then Jason and I will
officially submit this policy proposal and then work with the community on
revising any aspects that aren't completely appealing or decisively good for
the community.     Thank you    Marla Azinger and Jason Schiller
Please be advised that this is a suggested new section to NRPM in addition
to keeping the current section 4.6 Voluntary Partial Returns and Amnesty.  
Name: Active Reclamation of abandoned number resources

This policy addresses the following:

1.	Find, reclaim and re-use unused number resources. 

2.	Give incentive to keep unused number resources out of the black

3.	Assist ARIN in cleaning up the database. 

4.	Provide an incentive to self identify and return unused resources. 

5.	Increase efficient utilization of ARIN number resources. 

6.	Help ease the transition to IPv6. 

7.	Help ensure fair re-distribution of resources to those who need

NRPM#: Active Reclamation of abandoned number resources 

ARIN will actively investigate and ensure abandoned ARIN number resources
including legacy resources that are under ARIN management are returned to
the ARIN address pool for recirculation.  Any one may submit a report of
abandonment for ARIN to investigate.  ARIN may investigate abandonment
without a report when ARIN has reason to believe it has been abandoned.


ARIN can use their discretion to determine if someone is abusing this policy
by submitting multiple reports with poor evidence of abandonment.  This will
result in a loss of claim to all reports currently in progress by the
perceived abuser  ARIN has the right to reject investigation requests if
they deem the reporting entity is abusing the policy.


Addresses that are squatted and efficiently used will be granted amnesty if
the addresses are self reported, back billing is reconciled and any
applicable RSA is signed.  Partial returns and amnesty can be granted to
squatted addresses under this policy.


            Management of abandoned number resources

-ARIN will keep a Lost Property Office via a direct link from the main ARIN

-ARIN will publicly list all number resources that are reported abandoned on
the Lost Property Office site and the status of the investigation.  Stats of
recovered space through the abandoned number resources will be provided
bi-annually at the ARIN Members Meetings.

- ARIN will take measures to identify a chain of custody or successor in
interest to the last known POC.  If the successor is determined, the block
will be transferred to the successor under current ARIN policy.  

- If the number resources are not valid for transfer to the successor and
the original finder is not eligible to receive the number resources then the
block will be added back into the ARIN address pool for re-use.

-The original "finder" is eligible for receipt of the addresses if they are
currently eligible per ARIN policy to receive more addresses and the
addresses are not transferred to a chain of custody that was discovered
during investigation.

- If an investigation reveals a successor who is unaware of their number
resources, ARIN can decide if there is good faith and sufficient
justification for the successor to keep the resources. Partial returns and
amnesty can be granted to sucessors for blocks revealed in and investigation
under this policy.

-Before ARIN re-uses allegedly abandoned resources ARIN will work with ISP's
to route these resources no less than 90 days in order to validate they are
not in use.

-The original "finder" will receive a "finders" compensation for the listing
when either resolution occurs.  *For example a credit could be put towards
their annual fees.

-To report an abandoned block, send a request for investigation via the
Abandoned Block Template. 

            Examples of Abandoned number resources:

            - Unused Legacy (e.g. swamp)

            -Business failure and the number resources are not currently
assigned nor in use.

            -Bad recordkeeping by an otherwise functional entity.

            -Squatted space that is not self reported.


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