[arin-ppml] The Library Book Approach to IPv4 Scarcity

John Santos JOHN at egh.com
Tue Nov 11 19:13:14 EST 2008

On 11 Nov 2008 jrhett at svcolo.com wrote:

> On Oct 29, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Kevin Kargel wrote:

[Obviously quoting someone else, but the attribution has been

> >> I don't understand why basic recordkeeping that any ISP
> >> should be doing, should not be able to be mandated. I have
> >> had no problem maintaining an accurate inventory of our IP
> >> use. I feel confident enough about our recordkeeping to pay
> >> $20 out of my own pocket for any inaccurate or missing record
> >> found in our IP database. (This is not a challenge, of course).

Not all of us are ISPs.  My only documentation of our IP usage
is our DNS files.  Is that enough?  What *KIND* of documentation
to they want here, anyway?

> >
> > I don't understand why anyone would think they have the right to  
> > tell anyone
> > else how to admin their network or what tasks they need to do in  
> > order to do
> > it.  I agree that basic recordkeeping is a must but I don't think we  
> > have
> > the right to make other businesses do things our way.  Even if you
> > religiously balance your checkbook I don't think you would be happy  
> > if they
> > made not balancing it a misdemeanor offense.
> Read your RSA.   It explicitly says you need to provide this  
> information on request.  Now you can either keep good records, or  
> waste a lot of people's time to do it in a hurry on demand.

Since I don't have an RSA, this sounds like yet another reason
to avoid signing one.

> > I applaud you efforts for accurate and timely recordkeeping.  I do  
> > not think
> > it is reasonable that we expect the rest of the world meets your  
> > standards.
> I believe that it is totally within ARIN's charter to demand that  
> their assignees track their usage well to avoid waste.  I support and  
> encourage this effort.
> I also believe that this is mandated in the RSA today, and you should  
> be paying attention to that.

This argument is only applicable to those who have signed RSAs.

John Santos
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
781-861-0670 ext 539

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