[arin-ppml] FW: Policy Proposal: Equitable Distribution ofIPv4Resources before IPv4 Run out

Marshall Eubanks tme at multicasttech.com
Fri May 23 10:31:30 EDT 2008

On May 22, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Howard, W. Lee wrote:

>>> If you were to prohibit allocations to extralarge ISPs, all
>> you would
>>> be doing is preventing small companies from using the ISP of their
>>> choice, effectively forcing them to use a small ISP.  There
>> are many
>>> good things about small ISPs (I've worked at a couple), but
>> they can't
>>> meet all needs.
>> It is also not as if large companies cannot set up or make
>> alliances with small companies to get around these sorts of
>> rules. Anyone with any experience with US SIBR contracting


>> will know what I mean.
> For those of us who don't have experience with those letters, could
> you explain what you mean?
> Do you mean that such alliances are important for the development
> of the Internet?


If you deny large companies allocations, just because they are large,
some will try and get around the rules. This can be done in many ways.  
Companies can set up front companies, fund small companies and then  
acquire them just after they get allocations, have employees set up  
subsidiaries that appear independent but aren't, etc., etc.

As an illustration, various governments in the USA have set-asides and  
other mechanisms to fund small companies (the SBIR is one), minority  
owned companies, local companies, etc. It doesn't take much experience  
with government contracting to realize that much of the set-aside  
money is not really going to the people it is intended to be going to,  
because of the same sorts of tricks. And, at least with the Federal  
government, there is the force of law behind the contracting  
mechanisms. I do not believe that ARIN has the same sorts of  
investigatory powers.

So, if ARIN formally prohibited "allocations to extralarge ISPs," I  
don't think it would work. I thus could not support any such proposal.


P.S. This is not to say one way or the other that set-aside government  
programs are useless or should be scrapped. That is a different  

> Thanks,
> Lee
>> Regards
>> Marshall
>>> IMHO.
>>> Lee
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