[arin-ppml] FW: Policy Proposal: Equitable Distribution of IPv4Resources before IPv4 Run out

Thu May 22 00:08:23 EDT 2008

Let me see here. 83(approximately) members have 83% of the IP pool.
Honestly, I think upper 83% shouldn't get any. They already HAVE 83%.
Reserve it for the 2700 members that have the other 17%. Those
83(approximately) members have more wiggle room than the other 2700 members.
If those 83(approximately) memebrs do not get any allocations from the last
IANA allocation, they will NOT go out of business. On the other hand, a
much, much smaller company that is growing, might actually go out of
business for lack of an allocation.

I am absolutely AGAINST this brain-dead proposal.

Michael Thomas

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Michael K. 
> Smith - Adhost
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 7:26 PM
> To: Scott Leibrand; arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Equitable 
> Distribution of IPv4Resources before IPv4 Run out
> 
> Hello Scott:
> 
> I'm working on a basis assumption that Extra Large 
> organizations request more addresses more frequently than any 
> of the other groups.  So, if allocations proceed organically 
> with the last IANA allocation, there is a high likelihood 
> that all of the last allocation will go to the Extra Large 
> organizations alone.  So, in an effort to help smaller 
> providers "at the end" we should reserve some space for them 
> so that they can get space, even though they request that 
> space less frequently.  
> 
> If I understand the existing distribution methodology 
> correctly, if there were only a single /20 available at the 
> end, an Extra Large organization could still be allocated 
> that space, even though they had requested a /16.  With my 
> proposal, that last /20 would only be available to either a 
> Small or Extra Small Organization depending on how much of 
> the percentage for that group had been allocated already.
> 
> I used the existing distribution because it seemed a 
> defensible position because it follows historical allocation 
> patterns instead of using some arbitrary assignment of 
> percentages like 75% for Extra Large, 10% for Large, etc.
> 
> I hope that helps.  Please feel free to ask for more clarification.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf
> > Of Scott Leibrand
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:54 PM
> > To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Equitable 
> Distribution of IPv4
> > Resources before IPv4 Run out
> > 
> > Michael,
> > 
> > Can you help me understand the rationale for this proposal 
> a bit better?
> > 
> > As I understand it, this proposal would "lock in" the size-based
> > distribution of addresses for the remaining ARIN free pool 
> when the IANA
> > free pool is exhausted.  That's straightforward enough, but 
> I'm a bit
> > unclear as to the "why".  How does locking in such ratios, 
> and reserving
> > space for each group, help ensure a more equitable distribution?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Scott
> > 
> > Member Services wrote:
> > > ARIN received the following policy proposal. In 
> accordance with the ARIN
> > > Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process, the proposal is being
> > > posted to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) and 
> being placed on
> > > ARIN's website.
> > >
> > > The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review this proposal 
> at their next
> > > regularly scheduled meeting. The AC may decide to:
> > >
> > >       1. Accept the proposal as written. If the AC 
> accepts the proposal,
> > > it will be posted as a formal policy proposal to PPML and 
> it will be
> > > presented at a Public Policy Meeting.
> > >
> > >       2. Postpone their decision regarding the proposal 
> until the next
> > > regularly scheduled AC meeting in order to work with the 
> author. The AC
> > > will work with the author to clarify, combine or divide 
> the proposal. At
> > > their following meeting the AC will accept or not accept 
> the proposal.
> > >
> > >       3. Not accept the proposal. If the AC does not 
> accept the proposal,
> > > the AC will explain their decision via the PPML. If a 
> proposal is not
> > > accepted, then the author may elect to use the petition process to
> > > advance their proposal. If the author elects not to 
> petition or the
> > > petition fails, then the proposal will be closed.
> > >
> > > The AC will assign shepherds in the near future. ARIN 
> will provide the
> > > names of the shepherds to the community via the PPML.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, the AC invites everyone to comment on 
> this proposal on
> > > the PPML, particularly their support or non-support and 
> the reasoning
> > > behind their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough
> > > vetting and provides important guidance to the AC in 
> their deliberations.
> > >
> > > The ARIN Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process can 
> be found at:
> > > http://www.arin.net/policy/irpep.html
> > >
> > > Mailing list subscription information can be found at:
> > > http://www.arin.net/mailing_lists/
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Member Services
> > > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> > >
> > >
> > > ## * ##
> > >
> > >
> > > Policy Proposal Name: Equitable Distribution of IPv4 
> Resources before
> > > IPv4 Run out
> > >
> > > Author: Michael K. Smith
> > >
> > > Proposal Version: 1
> > >
> > > Submission Date: 05/20/2008
> > >
> > > Proposal type: new
> > >
> > > Policy term: permanent
> > >
> > > Policy statement:
> > >
> > > Upon receipt of the last allocation of IPv4 address space 
> to ARIN from
> > > IANA, ARIN will reserve address space within the 
> allocated block for
> > > Organizations within the defined ARIN Organizational Size 
> determinations
> > > (Extra Small, Small, Large, Extra Large) based upon the 
> utilization
> > > percentages for each group gathered from the statistics 
> of the last two
> > > IANA allocations to ARIN.  In order to make the 
> allocation percentages
> > > mathematically feasible, the percentages will be rounded 
> to the closest
> > > whole number and, subsequently, the the closest bit boundary for
> > > assignment the maximum allocation size for the 
> Organization size as
> > > defined by ARIN.
> > >
> > > Once the final IANA allocation is received, ARIN will publish the
> > > allocation percentages that will be used for the final 
> allocation to the
> > > PPML and ARIN website with the necessary documentation 
> supporting the
> > > assignment of percentages.
> > >
> > > Rationale:
> > >
> > > Description:
> > >
> > > This policy is designed to allow Organizations of the 
> various defined
> > > sizes to continue to receive address allocations from the 
> last available
> > > space and is slanted towards ensuring that organizations 
> within the
> > > Large, Small and Extra Small groups (and more 
> specifically, the Small
> > > and Extra Small groups) are able to get additional IPv4 
> space at the end
> > > of the ARIN's ability to allocate such space.  Given the 
> statistics
> > > below, it is likely that Extra Large Organizations would 
> get most or all
> > > of the last remaining space because given the amount they 
> have been
> > > allocated to date.  This policy would help ensure that other
> > > Organizations had a statistically equal opportunity to 
> receive space as
> > > well.
> > >
> > >
> > > Example:
> > >
> > > Please see http://www.arin.net/statistics/index.html (Note: the
> > > statistics are generated from IP allocations from 2006 
> and 2007).  This
> > > policy would require statistics to be limited to the 
> previous 2 IANA
> > > allocations to ARIN.)
> > >
> > > The present distribution as of May 20th 2008 is:
> > >
> > > Extra Large: 83.11%
> > > Large: 6.75%
> > > Small: 9.00%
> > > Extra Small: 1.14%
> > >
> > > With this example, ARIN would reserve address space in 
> the final IANA
> > > allocation according to those percentages, to the extent 
> that it is
> > > mathematically possible within the existing range. In 
> order to make the
> > > math work, rounding would give us:
> > >
> > > Extra Large: 83%
> > > Large: 7%
> > > Small: 9%
> > > Extra Small: 1%
> > >
> > > Who is affected:
> > >
> > > All ARIN Members will be affected by this policy.  I 
> assume that smaller
> > > providers will benefit from having some space available 
> to them beyond
> > > where they would be with an organic allocation model, and 
> the Extra
> > > Large Organizations would experience some pain because, 
> using the model
> > > above, they would be excluded from being allocated 17% of 
> the remaining
> > > space, even if they had all of the necessary justifications for
> > > receiving allocations from within that space.
> > >
> > > Policy Enforcement:
> > >
> > > ARIN staff will have to enforce this policy and ensure 
> that allocations
> > > stay within the published percentages.
> > >
> > > Financial and Liability Implications:
> > >
> > > Financially, there may be additional resources required 
> by ARIN Staff to
> > > allocate resources using this model.  These resources 
> might include
> > > application development, staff training and tracking of 
> allocations
> > > based upon the model.
> > >
> > > ARIN may have legal liability should Organizations that 
> were denied
> > > space according to the model decide to contest the legality of the
> > > policy in court.
> > >
> > > Timetable for implementation:  Upon receipt of finall 
> IANA allocation
> > > (roughly 2011).
> > >
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