[ppml] Markets, pricing, transparency, 2008-2 / 8.3.9
cliffb at cjbsys.bdb.com
Tue Mar 18 13:30:50 EDT 2008
Tom Vest wrote:
>> We're not eliminating the single source. Like the title for your car
>> from the DMV, it goes through one and only one place.
> You got the title to your car from the DMV?
Actually yes. That's how it's done here in Maryland
> Gosh, I thought that chain started with something (i.e., a "pink
> slip") that came from the car seller and/or financer.
> You have to *report* title transfers to the DMV after the fact, after
> which they replace the old one with an updated one.
> But you have to report it first.
> But we all know how much everyone loves to take time off from work/fun
> and go visit the DMV, right?
> I bet we'd all go visit them religiously even if all licensing and
> vehicle registration were voluntary, and police did not exist.
> It kind of makes one wonder why all of that taxpayer money is wasted
> on police in the first place ;-\
Most of our stuff with the DMV can be done over the internet. :-)
> You live in California right?
>>> 2. Next, allow market forces to govern the address delegation function
>>> -- i.e., engage everyone's well-honed instincts to spend less
>>> andprofit more, and allow the overall distribution of address
>>> resource be
>>> determined and legitimated by that market process.
> The point is not that markets or the profit motive are bad.
> The point is that once you subject some system to those motives, you
> have to assume that they will be applied consistently and vigorously,
> not just enough but not too much, not just in ways that you think are
Again, there's a big market here for cars but all the titles go through
the DMV and the rules are applied "consistently and vigorously"
>> Not decentralized. Not a market. Simply one more way in which
>> addresses may be obtained from/through ARIN
> "Decentralized" means the individual transactions that affect the
> quality of the "central registry" and the overall (next-level)
> distribution of address resources happen outside of the direct purview
> of the maintainer of the central registry. Don't blame me man, I
> didn't make the word up.
>> Not like insurance. Much more like the DMV.
> Yes, like the magical, police-free, self-enforcing DMV.
Actually yes except for the magical part.
>>> I can't make the case any more clearly. I would also like the simple
>>> way to work, but wishing it will not make it so.
>> Then I guess I give up because I still don't understand your examples or
>> why what I put forth won't work.
> That is definitely the right response; I am going to follow your lead
> on this.
I bet you won't. :-)
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