[ppml] NANOG IPv4 Exhaustion BoF
Owen DeLong
owen at delong.com
Mon Mar 10 01:37:03 EDT 2008
On Mar 4, 2008, at 1:01 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mar 4, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> Leo Bicknell made the point that without this policy or something
>
>> like it, the world becomes set in stone after IPv4 runout. Haves
>> have and have nots have not and there's no way for that to change.
>
>
> To be blunt, this strikes me as astoundingly hallucinatory.
>
> Without some form of transfer policy, ARIN simply becomes irrelevant
> as address consumers go to the "black" market in order to meet their
> requirements.
>
> With a transfer policy, ARIN _may_ retain some relevance as a source
> of "title" information, but a lot depends on the restrictions ARIN
> attempts to impose. Make the policy too restrictive, and people
> will go elsewhere.
>
> In the end, with or without a transfer policy, you're still out of
> "free" IPv4 addresses and businesses will do what they feel is
> necessary to get around unenforceable bureaucratic rules.
>
> Regards,
> -drc
I am not as convinced as you are that routing of black-market IP will be
so readily available from service providers.
Owen
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