[arin-ppml] Q1 - ARIN address transferpolicy: whythetriggerdate?

Marshall Eubanks tme at multicasttech.com
Thu Jun 26 07:01:21 EDT 2008


On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Lee Dilkie wrote:

> Howard, W. Lee wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
>>> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Lee Dilkie
>>> do need to push hard for IPv6 adoption.
>> What would that look like?
>> Lee
> Well, at the beginning, it would be something small, presumably. On  
> the
> order of 5 to 10 pounds (2.5 to 5 Kilo's), and pink.. Oh yes, it will
> cry a lot. But folks on this list should be used to that ;)
> Seriously folks.
> Dual stack is the only reasonable way to both get IPv6 deployed *and*
> maintain legacy networking with IPv4-only hosts/applications. Your
> recently passed proposal to set aside IPv4 space for yet-to-be- 
> developed
> v4<->v6 translators is mostly wishing for magic to happen. Not to say
> there won't be some application translators written but for the  
> majority
> of apps, dual stack is the most reasonable solution going forward.  
> That,
> I think, is why the IETF abandoned NAT-PT and came out swinging hard  
> for
> dual stack.

I have been in several IETF IPv6 discussions lately about NAT-PT. It  
was abandoned, but
it is back.


> And for dual-stack to happen, we need to force the issue because it
> seems pretty obvious that it isn't going to happen anytime soon if we
> just sit and wait for folks to get on board with their good  
> intentions.
> It hasn't happened yet and we've been at this for how many years  
> now...
> And we are running out of time. We need to do 2 things.
> 1. Give out IPv6 allocations with each IPv4 allocation with  
> instructions
> to use it.
> 2. Check that it gets used before giving out any more allocations. And
> by used, I mean, made available to downstream customers if applicable.
> There you go, no excuses, deploy dual stack or get no more  
> allocations.
> once everybody "gets it", I think you'll see IPv6 connectivity being
> rolled out real fast, everywhere. All these big consumers of ip
> addresses are very smart business folks, working within a set of rules
> and regulations to get their job done is nothing new, if everyone  
> has to
> do it, it's simply table stakes.
> -lee
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