[arin-ppml] Q1 - ARIN address transfer policy: why the triggerdate?

Tom Vest tvest at pch.net
Tue Jun 24 10:48:22 EDT 2008

On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Paul Vixie wrote:

>> As for the cost benefit issue, sometimes you just have to see the  
>> writing on
>> the wall and realize that you will have to spend money sooner or  
>> later. ...
> alas, not in america for the last couple of decades.  it's all about  
> current
> quarter or in-year revenue and expense.  the most that many large  
> companies
> can do at this point is make sure they know what they will do at RIR  
> runout,
> and trigger that plan at IANA runout.  that may not sound like much  
> but it's
> way more than medium-to-small companies will do, which is: sit  
> tight, wait
> for an ipv6 internet to appear through the efforts of larger better- 
> funded
> companies, and assume that the dribs and drabs of ipv4 space needed  
> by small
> companies will not be of any interest to the large companies, so  
> feel "safe".
> in this part of the analysis, there's good symmetry between "can  
> afford to be
> an early mover" and "is so large and with so much organizational  
> inertia that
> being a late mover would be fatal".  in other words the smaller  
> entities who
> can't afford to invest in ipv6 until there's an in-year or in- 
> quarter motive
> to do so, are also the ones who can do so the quickest when their  
> time comes,
> and the "dribs and drabs" of ipv4 space that the big guys won't be  
> able to
> use, will tide the little guys over just fine.

Hi Paul,

How do you think the "dribs and drabs" are going to make it to the  
little guys?

What would cause the owners of something uniquely valuable -- even  
something that the owner couldn't use directly -- to part with it on  
"reasonable" terms?

Assuming they are willing to part with it at some price that's less  
than the absolute max that "the market will bear", what will prevent  
other players who are willing to pay more than little guy "reasonable  
terms" from buying it up and internalizing the difference?


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