[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Extend Experimental Renewal Timeframe

Leo Bicknell bicknell at ufp.org
Fri Jun 20 12:22:55 EDT 2008


In a message written on Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:18:56AM -0400, Azinger, Marla wrote:
> Its a waste of time and money for both parties (ARIN Staff and
> Experimenter).  One year is a short timeframe for any experiment
> to have to take time out for administrivia.  And while 1 year is a
> waste of time for both parties it wont do any harm to push it out
> to 2 years which is a more realistic time frame for an experimenter
> to really figure out if they have something worth pursuing or not.
> And it does NO harm to change it.

For me, the critical item is not that there is administrivia after
a year, it is the burden on staff and the experimenter.  Based on
ARIN's staff response I'm invisioing it goes something like this
(having never had an experimental block myself):

ARIN, Via E-Mail:

  Hi!  It's been a year since you applied for your experimental block.
  We would like you to please confirm that you are still conducting the
  experiment and provide us with some documentation of your progress.

Experimenter, Via E-Mail:

  Hi!  The experiment is ongoing.  Our web page is at
  http:://mybigexperiment.com/ with information on what we're doing.
  I did a presentation at IETF about it, archived at
  www.ietf.org/meeting123/presoABC.pdf, and I'm on the schedule at the
  next nanog as well.

ARIN: Checks URLS.

ARIN, Via E-Mail:

  Thanks!  Talk to you next year.

If my vision is accurate, then I don't believe the burden is large
enough to waste a policy proposal on at this time.

If my vision is inaccurate, then I would encourage someone to post
a summary of how much time and effort the one year review took so
we have some concrete data.  Saying it took 5 hours of time and 30
e-mails to make staff happy would tell me we need to look into this
in more detail.

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       Leo Bicknell - bicknell at ufp.org - CCIE 3440
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