[arin-ppml] Creating a market for IPv4 address space in absenceof routing table entry market

John Santos JOHN at egh.com
Wed Jun 18 12:43:09 EDT 2008


On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:

>  
> > I don't think anyone who advocates a market in address space 
> > thinks that implies ownership of address space.  It implies 
> > ownership of the right to use address space (i.e. a license 
> > to use that unique set of integers, in the limited context of 
> > the IPv4 Internet.)
> 
> If so, then that would be a MAJOR change to the set of rights wich
> currently come with an ARIN allocation. Currently you have a right
> to use those integers in devices which support the Internet Protocol
> version 4. This holds whether or not you connect the set of devices
> to the Internet or not. If you have a need for uniqueness, you can
> apply to ARIN and get addresses. Many companies have done so, often
> to use in VPNs or private internetworks (also called extranets) in 
> which companies connect to their trading partners.

No, this is no change at all to the rights that come with an ARIN
allocation.  If I am building my own IPv4 network that is not
connected to the Internet, I can use any set of addresses I want.
I do *not* need ARIN's (or anyone else's) permission to do this.  I
do not have any guarantee of uniqueness, but if I'm not connected
to the Internet, I don't care.  Also, if I want to use 32-bit
numbers for any purpose not related to IP or specifically IPv4,
ARIN's supplied 32-bit numbers are of absolutely no relevence.
If you have been supplied the *same* 32-bit IPv4 addesses by ARIN
that I've used in my own completely non-connected network, you
have have no right to prevent me from doing so.

The rights granted by ARIN in conjunction with an IPv4 address
apply only to the use of that address on the Internet, and not
to that number in any other context.  This has always been true.
It is *not* a change.


> 
> --Michael Dillon
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John Santos
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