[ppml] /29 limit for ARIN SWIP whois
Divins, David
dsd at servervault.com
Tue Jan 8 16:23:37 EST 2008
I think it is clear from these discussions that SWIP is unnecessary.
Down with SWIP and RWHOIS!
-dsd
David Divins
Principal Engineer
ServerVault Corp.
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whois
This discussion needs to move to the ppml as it concerns a policy and
its merits and rationale.
Ray
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> From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-
> bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Leo Bicknell
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:14 PM
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> Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] /29 limit for ARIN SWIP whois
>
> In a message written on Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:23:23AM -0500, Joe
> Maimon wrote:
> > Is there any overriding reason to limit ARIN swip to /29 or bigger?
>
> I will point out (in IPv4):
>
> /32 assignment (e.g. dial up, DSL, etc) is by definition 100%
utilized.
>
> In terms of subnets, which only make sense if you have two more more
> devices (router + one or more hosts):
>
> /31 subnet by definition is 100% used.
> /30 subnet by definition is 100% used (router, host, network,
> broadcast).
> /29 subnet is at minimum 50% used (router, host, network, broadcast).
> If we further assume this was done because a /30 was not large
> enough (e.g. people are doing the right thing) there must be at
> least 5/8's, or 62.5% in use. Also, while the standard may be 80%
> utilization, which would require 7 of the 8 IP's to be in use;
> that leaves an interesting corner case where 5/8 and 6/8 can't
> fit in a /30, but don't meet 80%. Thus it makes sense to count
> 5/8 and 6/8 as fully utilized, making it all but impossible to
> have an underutilized /29.
>
> Now, one of ARIN's primary uses for the data is to insure assignments
> were made in accordance with ARIN's rules when someone requests more
> space. There's no reason to review a /30, /31, or 32, as there's no
> chance those assignments were under-utilized.
>
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