[arin-ppml] Fantasyland

Bill Darte BillD at cait.wustl.edu
Fri Aug 29 07:32:00 EDT 2008

Now THAT is interesting....and disappointing...
I believe it makes a fantastic scorecard and target for 'anyone' who wishes to influence practical participation in the IPv6 Internet.
I know that I will be sharing this with my colleagues at Washington University in St. Louis.
I hope we all learn to appreciate the taste of dogfood.

Bill Darte
Washington University in St. Louis

-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net on behalf of bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com
Sent: Thu 8/28/2008 4:45 PM
To: michael.dillon at bt.com
Cc: ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Fantasyland
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:03:29PM +0100, michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
> > > Why shouldn't the company in question just deploy IPv6 and install 
> > > NAT-PT gateways to cover the next 2-3 years before
> > > IPv6 transit is widely available?
> > 	Please provide a vendor list for NAT-PT gateways that
> > 	provide production level service/availability - today.
> I would hope that the company in question would plan their deployment
> exercise and not just rush out buying equipment and blasting out their
> old network. As part of the planning exercise, they might go to the ARIN
> IPv6 wiki at <http://www.getipv6.info/index.php/Investigate_Middleboxes>
> where they will note vendor names. If they contact said vendors, then
> there is motivation for said vendors to provide production level service
> and availabilty within the timeframe for implementation. Note that there
> is also the possibility of consulting firms using open-source NAT-PT who
> would then provide the SLA and support component.
> Obviously, today, there is only one vendor on that page and no mention
> of
> where open-source NAT-PT can be found. I would hope that anyone with
> more
> information would log on to the wiki and update this page and others.

	which raises the question of "eating our own dogfood"...

	there have been a number of calls for folks to take first 
	steps to get their "externally" facing DNS, SMTP, HTTP services
	visable on IPv6.   One might find this survey of interest.


	clearly we have a ways to go to meet the first hurdle. As for NAT-PT,
	the IETF is still trying to settle on a standard.

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