[arin-ppml] Stepping forward, opening my mouth and removing all doubt about

Bill Darte BillD at cait.wustl.edu
Wed Aug 27 11:25:06 EDT 2008

Hi Stewart,

You are right.  Those of us that have been engaged 'know' what's going
on because we have been engaged for an extended period of time.

Our policy proposals and the 'liberalized transfer policy proposal'
particularly are intended supplement, replace, augment, etc. existing
ARIN policy.

Each proposal should include numbering that suggests where it would
reside within our Number Resource Policy Manual.  That provides context,
but requires that you either know already or are willing to read the
larger document to understand where a given proposal fits in.  Also,
each proposal presents a short rationale which should provide addition
context, motivation for it.

Whose ox?  Well, that depends upon where they fit into the industry and
will be affected by the policy or their professional or personal values
and perspective.

Your tack is correct.  Ask on the ppml and get engaged.  If you can wade
through the often less than direct and organized input, you get lots of
education on the subject.  Most often inquiry doesn't reward you with

Hope to see you in LA at the next meeting.....

Bill Darte

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Stewart Dean
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:37 AM
> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: [arin-ppml] Stepping forward,opening my mouth and 
> removing all doubt about
> how clueless I am.
> At some point, I joined this list because something I was 
> doing related to it. 
> In the course of time, either from membership here or because 
> I'm the Tech POC for 12 Class Cs, I got the transfer policy 
> questionnaire, and I rarely felt my ignorance so keenly.  I 
> had only the vaguest idea of what the questions meant, much 
> less having an informed opinion of them.  I spent some time 
> over the next 3 days flogging Google and www.arin.net to try 
> to educate myself.  At the end of that exercise, I understood 
> something about questions and was able to respond to 
> them....but I really never did find much that spoke clearly 
> and unequivocally on what they were about.  Why wasn't there 
> a linked resource explaining the background of each question, 
> the pros and cons or each side?  All the documentation I 
> could find was scattered here and there and was colorless and 
> passive-voiced...like reading a telephone book....yes, there 
> was data but what did it mean?
> What is a liberalized transfer policy?  Whose ox is getting 
> gored?  I guess this is a minefield and perhaps saying 
> anything would precipitate a flame-war, but what doc there 
> was related poorly or in such an inobvious way that it didn't 
> make much clear.  Like presenting a Noh play in 
> Wichita...*whatever* are those people doing and talking about????
> BTW, one of the problems about being sysadmin in a small shop 
> is that you have to be a Shiva Nataraja generalist in a world 
> of rapidly expanding requirements and areas of 
> expertise...and unless you're a glow-in-the-dark genius with 
> an eidetic memory, your ignorance grows exponentially.
> :(
> -- 
> ====
> Stewart Dean, Unix System Admin, Henderson Computer Resources
> Center of Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, New York  12504
> sdean at bard.edu  voice: 845-758-7475, fax: 845-758-7035
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