[arin-ppml] Whois Integrity Policy Proposal -- What is proof and how big is the problem?

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu Aug 21 11:43:45 EDT 2008


As a point of information, the data on 192.159.10.0/24 is still
correct and accurate and has not been updated since 1998.

Owen

On Aug 21, 2008, at 8:34 AM, John Santos wrote:

>
> Just out of curiosity, if you go to the ARIN web site, check your
> POC info, determine that it is still accurate, and leave it unchanged,
> does your date get bumped, or does it still appear to be old?
>
> Does the database need a "date of last confirmation" to reflect this
> situation, or would touching the "date of last update" suffice, or
> is this a complete non-issue?
>
>
> (I just checked my POC and ORG records and they are still correct,
> and haven't been modified since 2000 and 2004 respectively.)
>
>
>
> --  
> John Santos
> Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
> 781-861-0670 ext 539
>
> For 1997
>
> 8055 netblock records with "last modified" year of 1997
>  645  ASN records with "last modified" year of 1997
> 3677 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1997
>
>
> For the curious:
> 17 POC records with "last modified" year of 1987
> 23 POC records with "last modified" year of 1988
> 135 POC records with "last modified" year of 1989
> 234 POC records with "last modified" year of 1990
> 437 POC records with "last modified" year of 1991
> 896 POC records with "last modified" year of 1992
> 1733 POC records with "last modified" year of 1993
> 2256 POC records with "last modified" year of 1994
> 3396 POC records with "last modified" yea r of 1995
> 3945 POC records with "last modified" year of 1996
> 4009 POC records with "last modified" year of 1997
>
>
> --Heather
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Keith W. Hare <Keith at jcc.com> wrote:
> Heather,
>
> Thanks for the data.
>
> However, you left out 1997. Since ARIN didn't officially come into  
> existence until December 22, 1997, most of 1997 is still legacy.
>
> Keith
>
> From: heather skanks [mailto:heather.skanks at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:31 AM
> To: Keith W. Hare
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Whois Integrity Policy Proposal -- What is  
> proof and how big is the problem?
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Keith W. Hare <Keith at jcc.com> wrote:
> The Whois Integrity Policy Proposal says:
>
>  ARIN will not update historical information in
>  the ARIN Whois Database until the resource holder
>  can prove the organization's right to the resource.
>
> What documentation will be required for an organization to prove their
> right to a resource?
>
> Section 3 of the LRSA provides a process for evaluating a request:
>
> 3. EVALUATION AND ACCEPTANCE
> Following Legacy Applicant's completion of the online application  
> process, ARIN will promptly evaluate Legacy Applicant's request for  
> the Services. Evaluation may require Legacy Applicant's submission  
> of additional documentation to support its application such as, but  
> not limited to, state registration, Dun & Bradstreet and/or taxpayer  
> information, and/or registration under the province or country in  
> which the entity is registered for verification purposes. If ARIN,  
> in its sole and exclusive discretion, applying its published  
> Policies and internal verification process, determines that it can  
> provide the Services to Legacy Applicant, ARIN shall provide written  
> notice to Legacy Applicant of its willingness to do so, and ARIN  
> will promptly commence providing the Services to Legacy Applicant in  
> accordance with the terms and conditions of this Legacy Agreement.  
> If ARIN, in its sole and exclusive discretion, applying
> its published Policies and internal verification process, determines  
> that it cannot provide the Services, it will provide written notice  
> to Legacy Applicant of its decision.
>
>
>
> The APNIC proposal provided some statistics about how many  
> organizations
> might be affected by their proposal. Are there any counts available  
> for
> ARIN?
>
>
> Roughly..
> 1213 netblock records with "last modified" year of 1991
> 2654  netblock records with "last modified" year of 1992
> 6030  netblock records with "last modified" year of 1993
> 4641  netblock records with "last modified" year of 1994
> 7407  netblock records with "last modified" year of 1995
> 6038 netblock records with "last modified" year of 1996
>
>
> 162 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1991
> 72 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1992
> 122 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1993
> 321 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1994
> 411 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1995
> 624 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1996
>
>
>  912 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1991
> 1514 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1992
> 4452 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1993
> 3500 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1994
> 4917 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1995
> 3746 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1996
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Keith
>
> ______________________________________________________________
>
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