[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Whois Integrity Policy Proposal

Tom Vest tvest at pch.net
Thu Aug 21 19:38:23 EDT 2008


On Aug 21, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Howard, W. Lee wrote:

>
>> "Trust me" arguments have no place in global governance
>> processes.
>
> That's why we need contracts.
>
>> If you
>> don't sign a contract with ARIN, what's your alternative?
>
> You propose a competitive RIR structure?  Wouldn't that
> inherently generate a "race to the bottom" of least responsible
> allocation policies?

It's good question I think -- in fact it was the main question I  
raised when I debated Milton about his first paper on mechanism  
competition for IP address distribution, back in early 2005:

7.2005 Competition in IPv6 Addressing: A Review of the Debate
http://internetgovernance.org/pdf/igp-v6.pdf

An IFG-sponsored online debate covering this issue took place on April  
22, 2005:

http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/governance/2005-04/msg00110.html
http://internetgovernance.org/events.html
"Online Global Forum on ICANN Reform"
http://cotelco-server.syr.edu:8080/recordings.html?start_date=20050422&end_date=20050422

However, if I recall correctly much of the live debate merely recapped  
several related exchanges on the CPSR's "Internet Governance" mailing  
list, e.g.,

http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/governance/2005-04/msg00069.html
http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/governance/2005-04/msg00072.html
http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/governance/2005-04/msg00074.html
http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/governance/2005-04/msg00085.html
http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/arc/governance/2005-04/msg00104.html

TV

>> I suspect they are more concerned about the application of
>> "justified need" standards that would take away addresses
>> they currently have the option to use,
>
> Does this cover that issue?
> 10.(b) ARIN will take no action to reduce the services provided for
> Included Number Resources that are not currently being utilized by the
> Legacy Applicant.
>
>
>> or which would prevent them from selling them.
>
> That's going into a completely different policy proposal.
> Is your concern that [if a legacy holder signs the LRSA, and if a
> liberalized transfer policy passes,] the legacy holder may not
> be able to get as high a price, because they could only transfer to
> an organization that can demonstrate need?  If so--is that why
> your organization was allocated those addresses in the first place?
>
>
>>
>> Milton Mueller
>
>
> Lee
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