[arin-ppml] Whois Integrity Policy Proposal -- What is proof and how big is the problem?

[John Santos]

Just out of curiosity, if you go to the ARIN web site, check your
POC info, determine that it is still accurate, and leave it unchanged,
does your date get bumped, or does it still appear to be old?

Does the database need a "date of last confirmation" to reflect this
situation, or would touching the "date of last update" suffice, or
is this a complete non-issue?


(I just checked my POC and ORG records and they are still correct,
and haven't been modified since 2000 and 2004 respectively.)



-- 
John Santos
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
781-861-0670 ext 539
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For 1997

8055 netblock records with "last modified" year of 1997
 645  ASN records with "last modified" year of 1997
3677 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1997


For the curious:

17 POC records with "last modified" year of 1987
23 POC records with "last modified" year of 1988
135 POC records with "last modified" year of 1989
234 POC records with "last modified" year of 1990
437 POC records with "last modified" year of 1991
896 POC records with "last modified" year of 1992
1733 POC records with "last modified" year of 1993
2256 POC records with "last modified" year of 1994
3396 POC records with "last modified" year of 1995
3945 POC records with "last modified" year of 1996
4009 POC records with "last modified" year of 1997

--Heather


On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Keith W. Hare <Keith at jcc.com> wrote:

>  Heather,
>
> Thanks for the data.
>
> However, you left out 1997. Since ARIN didn't officially come into
> existence until December 22, 1997, most of 1997 is still legacy.
>
> Keith
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* heather skanks [mailto:heather.skanks at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:31 AM
> *To:* Keith W. Hare
> *Cc:* arin-ppml at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Whois Integrity Policy Proposal -- What is
> proof and how big is the problem?
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Keith W. Hare <Keith at jcc.com> wrote:
>
>> The Whois Integrity Policy Proposal says:
>>
>>  ARIN will not update historical information in
>>  the ARIN Whois Database until the resource holder
>>  can prove the organization's right to the resource.
>>
>> What documentation will be required for an organization to prove their
>> right to a resource?
>>
>
> Section 3 of the LRSA provides a process for evaluating a request:
>
> 3. EVALUATION AND ACCEPTANCE
> Following Legacy Applicant's completion of the online application process,
> ARIN will promptly evaluate Legacy Applicant's request for the Services.
> Evaluation may require Legacy Applicant's submission of additional
> documentation to support its application such as, but not limited to, state
> registration, Dun & Bradstreet and/or taxpayer information, and/or
> registration under the province or country in which the entity is registered
> for verification purposes. If ARIN, in its sole and exclusive discretion,
> applying its published Policies and internal verification process,
> determines that it can provide the Services to Legacy Applicant, ARIN shall
> provide written notice to Legacy Applicant of its willingness to do so, and
> ARIN will promptly commence providing the Services to Legacy Applicant in
> accordance with the terms and conditions of this Legacy Agreement. If ARIN,
> in its sole and exclusive discretion, applying
> its published Policies and internal verification process, determines that
> it cannot provide the Services, it will provide written notice to Legacy
> Applicant of its decision.
>
>
>
>>
>> The APNIC proposal provided some statistics about how many organizations
>> might be affected by their proposal. Are there any counts available for
>> ARIN?
>>
>
>
> Roughly..
>
> 1213 netblock records with "last modified" year of 1991
> 2654  netblock records with "last modified" year of 1992
> 6030  netblock records with "last modified" year of 1993
> 4641  netblock records with "last modified" year of 1994
> 7407  netblock records with "last modified" year of 1995
> 6038 netblock records with "last modified" year of 1996
>
>
> 162 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1991
> 72 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1992
> 122 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1993
> 321 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1994
> 411 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1995
> 624 ASN records with "last modified" year of 1996
>
>
>  912 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1991
> 1514 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1992
> 4452 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1993
> 3500 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1994
> 4917 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1995
> 3746 ORG records with "last modified" year of 1996
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>>
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