[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Whois Integrity Policy Proposal

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net 
> [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Keith Medcalf
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:04 AM
> To: Member Services
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Whois Integrity 
> Policy Proposal
> 
> 
> 
> This is a really stupid idea and I, for one, am completely against it.
> 
> My Legacy /24 registration data is up-to-date.  If the 
> intention is that I not update it anymore then the proper 
> course of action is to note that the resources are 
> "delegated" outside of the ARIN system (by the US DoC or 
> DDNNIC for example) and then REMOVE PUBLIC VISIBILITY of all 
> my personal information.
> 
> I sure the Legacy resource holders can come up with a 
> completely separate system to monitor those resources -- and 
> without needing to use EXTORTION to get it going. 
> 

I'm sure they can, too.  It will undoubtedly come with it's own
version of an RSA, and as it will be costly to administer, whoever
will administer it will want to charge a fee for signing up with
it.  Thus, how exactly would this legacy resource holder system be
any different than what the legacy resource holders have right now
with the ARIN legacy RSA?

Oooohhh, I get it!  What they have right now is administered by ARIN
and since we all know that ARIN is run by the devil incarnate, it
MUST be BAD!!!!  (ignore that man behind the curtain there who is
giving any legacy holders free whois in the current arin database)

Please get real, Keith.  The fact that your maintaining your /24
registration is enough of an argument to shoot this ill-advised
proposal down, there's no need to start dragging in loaded terms
and turning it into an emotional free-for-all

Ted

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> > Sent: Monday, 18 August, 2008 10:39
> > To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> > Subject: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal: Whois Integrity 
> Policy Proposal
> > 
> > ARIN received the following policy proposal. In accordance
> > with the ARIN
> > Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process, the proposal is being
> > posted to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) and 
> > being placed on
> > ARIN's website.
> > 
> > The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review this proposal at 
> their next 
> > regularly scheduled meeting. The AC may decide to:
> > 
> >      1. Accept the proposal as written. If the AC accepts the
> > proposal,
> > it will be posted as a formal policy proposal to PPML and it will be
> > presented at a Public Policy Meeting.
> > 
> >      2. Not accept the proposal. If the AC does not accept
> > the proposal,
> > the AC will explain their decision via the PPML. If a 
> proposal is not
> > accepted, then the author may elect to use the petition process to
> > advance their proposal. If the author elects not to petition or the
> > petition fails, then the proposal will be closed.
> > 
> > The AC will assign shepherds in the near future. ARIN will 
> provide the 
> > names of the shepherds to the community via the PPML.
> > 
> > In the meantime, the AC invites everyone to comment on this
> > proposal on
> > the PPML, particularly their support or non-support and the 
> reasoning
> > behind their opinion. Such participation contributes to a thorough
> > vetting and provides important guidance to the AC in their 
> > deliberations.
> > 
> > The ARIN Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process can be 
> found at: 
> > http://www.arin.net/policy/irpep.html
> > 
> > Mailing list subscription information can be found at: 
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> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Member Services
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> > 
> > 
> > ## * ##
> > 
> > Policy Proposal Name:  Whois Integrity Policy Proposal
> > 
> > Author: Heather Schiller
> > 
> > Proposal Version: 1
> > 
> > Submission Date:  August 15, 2008
> > 
> > Policy statement:
> > 
> > To ensure the integrity of information in the ARIN WHOIS Database a 
> > resource must be under an RSA (either legacy or 
> traditional) in order 
> > to update the WHOIS record.  ARIN will not update historical
> > information in
> > the ARIN Whois Database until the resource holder can prove the
> > organization's right to the resource.
> > 
> > 
> > Rationale:
> > 
> > ARIN currently maintains WHOIS and in-addr.arpa delegation
> > records in a
> > best-effort fashion.  In many cases ARIN does not have a formal
> > agreement with the legacy resource holders.  Legacy records are
> > frequently out of date and have become an increasingly 
> popular target
> > for hijackers.  Having up to date contact information and a formal
> > relationship with legacy record holders would assist ARIN 
> and ISP's in
> > ensuring these records are maintained accurately.  A similar 
> > policy was
> > successfully adopted in the APNIC region.
> > (http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-018-v001.html)
> > 
> > Timetable for implementation:
> > 
> > Within sixty (60) days of approval - with notification to 
> current POC 
> > email addresses listed on historical assignments, or as soon as 
> > reasonable for ARIN staff.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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