[ppml] Revision to 2008-3

Jay Hennigan jay at impulse.net
Fri Apr 4 11:29:58 EDT 2008

Owen DeLong wrote:

> I know of community networks held together by a collection of WRT-54s
> and donated 72xx hardware.  The minimum LIR fee to ARIN is $1,250
> per year, which, vastly exceeds the hardware budget of most community
> networks I know.

For 100 users that's just about $1 per month each.  I'm not trying to be 
Scrooge here, but this really doesn't seem out of line compared to what 
one would pay an ISP or telco/cableco.

> As to transit, many of the community networks I know get transit donated
> from various organizations or pay very little for it through various 
> discount
> arrangements.  Even if that is not the case, however, adding $1,250 or
> more per year to the annual costs usually exceeds the excess revenue
> of any of the ones I am familiar with.

Might it be possible (and better for the Internet community as a whole) 
for the smaller community networks with substantially fewer than 100 
users to also get address space SWIPped from those transit providers?

If there is a bona-fide need for a hardship or not-for-profit fee 
structure for freenet-style LIRs, I'm all for it.  I also fear the 
slippery-slope addressed by others in this discussion regarding 
agenda-driven organizations taking advantage.  I'm personally not 
convinced that such is needed unless I'm missing something really out of 
whack between the number of users represented in the definition of an 
LIR and the number actually splitting the bill.

Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - jay at impulse.net
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