[ppml] Policy Proposal 2007-21: PIv6 for legacy holders with

Kevin Kargel kkargel at polartel.com
Thu Oct 18 15:09:54 EDT 2007

I am all for giving the legacy holders a fair break, and being nice to
them.  I would go so far as to say that "initial" fees for them could be
waived.  Past that I am opposed to giving them more ongoing rights,
priviledges or recurring concessions than anyone else (meaning me) gets.
IPv6 needs to be a level playing field.  Everyone should have the same
requirements, rights and responsibilities.  

Simply said.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net] On 
> Behalf Of David S. Madole
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 1:16 PM
> To: arin ppml
> Subject: Re: [ppml] Policy Proposal 2007-21: PIv6 for legacy 
> holders with
> > From: "Scott Beuker" <scott.beuker at sjrb.ca>
> >
> > I oppose the policy proposal because all it really serves to do is 
> > grandfather the special treatment of legacy IPv4 space holders into 
> > the IPv6 world. I was very much looking forward to the fresh start 
> > IPv6 offered, where everyone would qualify for their 
> address space on 
> > the same merits as everyone else.
> As Ted pointed out recently, there is currently a 
> disincentive for legacy holders to implement IPv6 at all 
> versus dragging out IPv4 as long as they can.
> One simple way to remove this disincentive would be to offer 
> IPv6 addresses to legacy holders on the same terms as their 
> IPv4 addresses, or maybe not the same but something that 
> removes or lessens the disincentive.
> I am sure that concept will be thoroughly rebuffed for purely 
> political reasons. That's ok with me, as I am not advocating 
> for it here, just pointing it out as an effective solution to 
> that problem, if anyone even considers it to be a problem as Ted does.
> Taking this point a little further, it's largely the legacies that got
> IPv4 to take off and got the Internet built, they could be 
> the ones to do the same for IPv6 too perhaps if given an 
> incentive rather than a disincentive.
> After all, even ARIN, who should be leading the way I would 
> think, isn't even offering whois on IPv6 yet as far as I can 
> tell, even though RIPE has been doing so for almost five years.
> David
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