[ppml] Policy Proposal 2007-21: PIv6 for legacy holders with RSA and efficient use - Last Call

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Wed Oct 24 12:01:24 EDT 2007


I support

"...or demonstrate efficient utilization and coverage under a current
 ARIN RSA of all direct IPv4 assignments AND allocations...."

Ted

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott Leibrand [mailto:sleibrand at internap.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:36 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Member Services; ppml at arin.net
>Subject: Re: [ppml] Policy Proposal 2007-21: PIv6 for legacy holders
>with RSA and efficient use - Last Call
>
>
>Ted: I'm not 100% sure which text you're expressing support for.  Can
>you clarify?
>
>Thanks,
>Scott
>
>Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> I like the revision, I wouldn't support it if it could be used
>> by a legacy holder to cherry-pick a single IPv4 legacy assignment
>> and use that as a straw man to cover all of their legacy IPv4
>assignments.
>>
>> The worst that could happen is no legacy holders would take advantage
>> of the new policy, thus leaving us exactly where we are now.  In that
>> case we revise it again.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of
>>> Scott Leibrand
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:07 AM
>>> To: Member Services
>>> Cc: ppml at arin.net
>>> Subject: Re: [ppml] Policy Proposal 2007-21: PIv6 for legacy holders
>>> with RSA and efficient use - Last Call
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> As the policy author, I'd like to get opinions on the wordsmithing we
>>> did at the meeting.  The text to be added now reads:
>>>
>>> or demonstrate efficient utilization of all direct IPv4
>>> assignments or allocations covered by a current ARIN RSA.
>>>
>>>
>>> If an organization had multiple legacy assignments or allocations, and
>>> chose to cover just one of them under an RSA, would you read that that
>>> mean they'd only have to demonstrate efficient utilization of that one
>>> block?  Or does that verbiage accurately reflect the intent of the
>>> proposal, that all direct IPv4 assignments or allocations must be
>>> covered under an ARIN RSA and efficiently utilized?
>>>
>>> If you have any suggestions for simple wording changes to reduce
>>> ambiguity, I'm all ears.  If no one has any better suggestions, and we
>>> think the current proposal text is ambiguous, I'm leaning towards
>>> something like:
>>>
>>> or demonstrate efficient utilization and coverage under a current
>>> ARIN RSA of all direct IPv4 assignments or allocations.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm perfectly willing to stick with the current text, though, if people
>>> think it's clear and doesn't have any loopholes.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> P.S. I'm also interested in how ARIN staff would interpret the current
>>> proposed text.
>>>
>>> Member Services wrote:
>>>
>>>> Policy Proposal 2007-21
>>>> PIv6 for legacy holders with RSA and efficient use
>>>>
>>>> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC), acting under the provisions of the ARIN
>>>> Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process (IRPEP), determined that
>>>> there is community consensus in favor of the amended proposal and moved
>>>> it to last call. The policy text was amended from "a direct IPv4
>>>> assignment or allocation" to "all direct IPv4 assignments or
>>>> allocations." The AC made this determination at their meeting at the
>>>> conclusion of the ARIN Public Policy meeting on 18 October 2007. The
>>>> Chair of the AC reported the results of the AC meeting during the
>>>> Members Meeting. The AC Chair's report can be found at:
>>>> http://www.arin.net/meetings/minutes/ARIN_XX/mem.html
>>>>
>>>> The policy proposal text is provided below and is also available at:
>>>> http://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2007_21.html
>>>>
>>>> Comments are encouraged. All comments should be provided to
>>>> ppml at arin.net. This last call will expire at 23:59, Eastern Time, 6
>>>> November 2007.
>>>>
>>>> The ARIN Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process can be found at:
>>>> http://www.arin.net/policy/irpep.html
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Member Services
>>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ## * ##
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Policy Proposal 2007-21
>>>> PIv6 for legacy holders with RSA and efficient use
>>>>
>>>> Author: Scott Leibrand
>>>>
>>>> Proposal type: new
>>>>
>>>> Policy term: permanent
>>>>
>>>> Policy statement:
>>>>
>>>> Modify NRPM section 6.5.8.1 (Direct assignments from ARIN to end-user
>>>> organizations: Criteria), to read:
>>>>
>>>> To qualify for a direct assignment, an organization must:
>>>>
>>>> 1. not be an IPv6 LIR; and 2. qualify for an IPv4 assignment or
>>>> allocation from ARIN under the IPv4 policy currently in effect, or
>>>> demonstrate efficient utilization of all direct IPv4 assignments or
>>>> allocations covered by a current ARIN RSA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rationale:
>>>>
>>>> Current policy allows direct IPv6 allocations and assignments to nearly
>>>> all organizations with IPv4 allocations or assignments from ARIN. As a
>>>> result, such organizations can get IPv6 space just as easily
>as they can
>>>> get IPv4 space, making it easy for them to transition to IPv6
>as soon as
>>>> they're ready to do so. However, there are some organizations who
>>>> received IPv4 /23's and /24's prior to the formation of ARIN, and use
>>>> that space in a multihomed, provider-independent fashion. Under current
>>>> policy, such organizations cannot get IPv6 PI space without
>artificially
>>>> inflating host counts, and are therefore discouraged from
>adopting IPv6.
>>>> This policy proposal aims to remove this disincentive, and allow such
>>>> organizations to easily adopt IPv6.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, pre-ARIN assignments were issued through an informal
>>>> process, and many legacy resource holders have not yet entered into a
>>>> formal agreement with ARIN, the manager of many such IP numbering
>>>> resources. This policy proposal would require that such assignments be
>>>> brought under a current ARIN Registration Services Agreement, thereby
>>>> formalizing the relationship.
>>>>
>>>> Some pre-ARIN assignments may not be used efficiently. As unallocated
>>>> IPv4 numbering resources are approaching exhaustion, it is important to
>>>> ensure efficient utilization of IPv4 assignments, and to arrange for
>>>> reclamation of unused space. Therefore, this policy would require that
>>>> the organization wishing to receive IPv6 PI space demonstrate efficient
>>>> utilization of their IPv4 assignment. (Efficient utilization is already
>>>> defined elsewhere in policy, and the exact mechanism for achieving and
>>>> determining efficient use is a matter of procedure, not of policy, so
>>>> detailed procedures are not included in the policy statement above. The
>>>> intent is that any organization with an assignment of /23 or larger
>>>> which is less than 50% utilized would renumber and return whole unused
>>>> CIDR blocks as necessary to bring the remaining CIDR block to 50%
>>>> utilization or higher. A /24 should be considered efficiently utilized
>>>> as long as it is in use for multihoming, as /25's and smaller are not
>>>> routable for that purpose.)
>>>>
>>>> It has been suggested that this policy would be useful only until the
>>>> growth of IPv6 exceeds the growth of IPv4. I would agree with this, and
>>>> would further posit that the existing "qualify ... under the
>IPv4 policy
>>>> currently in effect" language should also be modified at that time. I
>>>> have therefore proposed this policy with a policy term of "permanent",
>>>> with the expectation that this section of policy (6.5.8.1) will be
>>>> rewritten at the appropriate time to entirely remove all IPv4
>>>>
>>> dependencies.
>>>
>>>> Timetable for implementation: immediate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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