[ppml] [address-policy-wg] Re: Can the RIRs bypass the IETF and do their own thing?

[Ray Plzak]

The US DoC has as much say for ARIN as it does for the RIPE NCC. The RIRs existed before ICANN. The relationship between the RIRs and ICANN is defined in the ASO MoU, an agreement between ICANN on the one hand and the NRO on behalf of the RIRs on the other.  There is no mention in the ICANN bylaws of the RIRs.

Ray

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gert Doering [mailto:gert at space.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:40 AM
> To: Dean Anderson
> Cc: ppml at arin.net; address-policy-wg at ripe.net;
> jordi.palet at consulintel.es; ietf at ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] Re: Can the RIRs bypass the IETF and
> do their own thing?
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 03:04:19PM -0400, Dean Anderson wrote:
> [..]
> > ICANN can end the MoU at any time, and find a new technical
> consultant.
> > The IETF can also end the MoU at any time. But the IETF doesn't have
> the
> > authority to appoint a new IANA operator.
> [..]
> > The RIR's can do whatever ICANN and the US Government allow them to
> do.
> > The IETF _can_ be taken out of the picture if there is cause to do
> so.
>
> Not quite.  If ICANN decides "we won't listen to IETF anymore", or "we
> try to inforce non-useful politics to the RIRs" there is no big reason
> why the RIRs couldn't just kick ICANN, install the NRO in its place,
> and
> change the structure to
>
>       IETF -> NRO -> RIRs
>
> Remember: the existing mechanism works, because the communities (!!)
> agree
> that it's a useful way to handle address distribution.
>
> The US DoC might have some say for ARIN, but the rest of the world
> couldn't care less - and I'm sure that the DoC is well aware of this
> and
> won't try to break apart working structures.
>
> So this is all sort of academic.
>
> Gert Doering
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