[ppml] Definition of "Existing Known ISP"

Divins, David dsd at servervault.com
Wed May 2 16:19:54 EDT 2007


I am a Web Hosting/DataCenter Company.  I am considered an ISP by ARIN
Policies. 

-dsd

David Divins
Principal Engineer
ServerVault Corp.
(703) 652-5955

-----Original Message-----
From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of
Paul Vixie
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 7:28 PM
To: Public Policy Mailing List
Subject: Re: [ppml] Definition of "Existing Known ISP"

> > I think that today's definition of ISP not not limited to user 
> > access, transit, and backbone services as it once was.  Companies 
> > providing web hosting and co-location services should be considered 
> > ISPs.  For that matter, there are also companies that call 
> > themselves ASPs, Application Service Providers, that have the same 
> > Internet number needs as ISPs.  ...

> I agree with much of what you're saying here and in the rest of your 
> email, but I don't completely agree with where you end up.  All ASPs, 
> web hosting companies, and colo providers are not ISPs in the sense 
> that the term is used in the NRPM.  ...
> 
> The defining characteristic of an "ISP" as referenced in the NRPM is 
> that the organization reassigns address space to organizations other
than itself.
> ... and I think most colo providers do fit this model and should be 
> classed as ISPs.

if an asp or web hosting company allocates a /32 to an organization
other than itself, for example a customer with an SSL service (where
it's impossible due to the protocol design to put more than one customer
on an IP address) then they are in my opinion, by ARIN's current
definition, an ISP.  they also need portable multihomable address space
since it is otherwise impossible, due to the routing system design, to
compete on reachability and price level against larger/older providers.
ARIN doesn't do protocol design like SSL nor routing system design like
BGP, but we have to recognize the effects on the industry of design
choices made in those protocols and systems.

note that these are my opinions alone, and may not reflect those of the
board of trustees, nor my daytime employer.
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