[ppml] Summary of Trial Balloons for Dealing withIPv4AddressCountdown

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Fri Mar 30 23:12:01 EDT 2007

RE: [ppml] Summary of Trial Balloons for Dealing with
IPv4AddressCountdownReclamation is item #4

  -----Original Message-----
  From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of
Bill Darte
  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:15 PM
  To: Azinger, Marla; Jim Weyand; ppml at arin.net
  Subject: Re: [ppml] Summary of Trial Balloons for Dealing

  I too thank Jim and I will be happy to work with you as you see fit to
engage this topic and the industry's perspectives.

  And what of reclaimation?  It seems if we are going to play the end game,
then we need to establish policy that states clearly that ARIN can and will
reclaim space.  Let the litigation begin and let's get on with it.

  Bill Darte

  -----Original Message-----
  From: ppml-bounces at arin.net on behalf of Azinger, Marla
  Sent: Fri 3/30/2007 5:21 PM
  To: Jim Weyand; ppml at arin.net
  Subject: Re: [ppml] Summary of Trial Balloons for Dealing with

  Jim-  Thank you for taking time on this issue and trying to organize the
thoughts a bit.

  Right now I view alot of the sujbect matter that makes up this issue as
being resolved by evolution.   That said there is one thing on your list
below that we could write policy for and one thing that is not on your list
that needs to be discussed and possibly policy written for.

  The one thing that you dont have below that I think does need to be
answered by our community is...should we have a reserve of IPv4 space?  If
yes, who/what would qualify for the reserved address space?  Are there
truely entities that will never be able to transition to IPv4?  Who can do
the research to create a list of valid qualifications?

  The item on your list below that could use policy is Recycling IPv4
addresses after we have ran out.  How is the RIR to handle this?  Do they
put them on a wait list?  Is the wait list first come first serve?  Is it
prioritized somehow?  Or if we voted to have a reserve are the returned IPv4
addresses added to the reserve and all that dont qualify under reserve
standards are told switch to IPv6?

  Ok.  That is my two cents.
  Thank you for your time
  Marla Azinger
  Frontier Communications

  [Azinger, Marla]
   -----Original Message-----
  From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of Jim
  Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:35 PM
  To: ppml at arin.net
  Subject: [ppml] Summary of Trial Balloons for Dealing with IPv4

          It seems like it is time to start the relatively hard work of
actually developing alternative policy proposals to deal with the IPv4
Address Exhaustion Issue.  It is too late to prepare proposals for the April
meeting but we have about 5 months before the cutoff for the October
meeting.  I have never written a proposal to any of the governing bodies but
my guess it will take at least that long to: gather a group of like-minded
individuals; negotiate the details of what to propose; write the proposal;
seek feedback; rewrite the proposal; etc, etc until the proposal is either
accepted or made irrelevant by another proposal.

          I find myself struggling with how to convert the suggestions and
comments on this list into actual policy proposals.

          I think it is useful at this point to list the different trial
balloons and proposals that have been suggested and discussed regarding IPv4
address exhaustion.  If you have a favorite that I have missed, send it to
me privately and I will send out a revised summary in a week or so.

          1)       Policy Proposal 2007-12: IPv4 Countdown Policy Proposal -
I believe this is the only proposal that can be voted on at the upcoming
meeting in April.  The full text can be found at:
http://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2007_12.html.  This proposal will, "Set
the date for termination of (IPv4) allocations and the date of
announcement".  This proposal specifically does not address IP address
recycling except to say that, "Recovery of unused address space should be
discussed separately."

          2)       An informal proposal to not make any changes to current
policy until absolutely necessary

          3)       An informal proposal to encourage address recycling by
increasing ARIN dues

          4)       Several similar informal proposals to encourage recycling
by empowering ARIN to more actively police the use of IPv4 addresses by
various means

          5)       An informal proposal to change the nature of assigned
IPv4 addresses to something similar to real property

          6)       An informal proposal to ask holders of unused address
IPv4 addresses to voluntarily return the addresses

          7)       Several variants of informal proposals to start assigning
IPv6 space with IPv4

          8)       An informal proposal to get endusers to demand access to
IPv6 networks by creating a media storm similar to Y2K.

          It is time to make up your mind, roll up your sleeves and get to
work.  The current policies for dealing with IPv4 Addresses are not causing
a crisis. yet.  It is however an urgent issue and extremely important.

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