[ppml] Understanding the ARIN lawsuit
Ed.Lewis at neustar.biz
Fri Mar 23 08:48:38 EDT 2007
At 20:16 +0100 3/19/07, Randy Bush wrote:
>Daniel Corbe wrote:
>> What exactly brought the lawsuit on to begin with? What did ARIN
>> deny Kreman from doing that Kreman thought it appropriate to take
>> legal action?
>and what requirements does folk's not keeping up with old news place on
The reason I am responding to this openly is because I think there is
a requirement placed upon the policy process because folks don't
always have the capability of knowing the history of what happens at
My first response to this was in the vein of - someone who is new to
the process is asking for some orientation to "what's going on?"
After seeing a detailed message on the topic, it's perfectly alright
to seek further background instead of leaping to conclusions.
If there were an "all things ARIN wiki" page, seeking detailed
information would be a breeze. During my efforts to just say "the
best information on this topic is from the ARIN legal council" I
found that it was quite hard to find the information on this on the
For instance - without some assistance off-list, I would have never
thought to look until the "Media" link for a press release. I looked
for "Press Release" or "Announcements" which were either absent or
Second I tried the ARIN web site search for "press release" "lawsuit"
and "law suit" and got no document hits. Cutting further to the
chase, it wasn't until I asked a few folks in person (at the IETF)
and got the answer from Member Services that I found the links to the
data I wanted to supply as the answer to the above question.
This is one case - but - the requirement is that for ARIN to maintain
a knowledgeable audience of policy input providers (the folks on
PPML) there has to be a way for newcomers to be able to ramp up
quickly. Yes, part of ramping up that is question asking is a burden
on those of us who already know but that's life. If we don't like
it, we have to put more emphasis on having a document store or
library or web site that has information at the ready.
I want to emphasize that the data I wanted was on the web site, there
was no hiding of it. The problem was mine - I couldn't locate it
efficiently (meaning, in my "spare" time that I dedicate to
performing my duties as a designated member representative). I
figure if I, someone with a history of working for and with ARIN has
a hard time, either I'm dim-witted or the data isn't all that
obvious. Sarcasm aside, I leave it to the reader to decide what the
cause may be - but at least you know what my motivation is for saying:
The public policy process requires a means for any person to find the
data they need to make a judgement on any policy proposal in an
efficient manner to the extent that is reasonable.
Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468
Sarcasm doesn't scale.
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