[ppml] Initiation of Petition was Re: Proposed Policy: IPv4 Countdown - not accepted by AC as formal policy proposal

Azinger, Marla marla.azinger at frontiercorp.com
Wed Mar 14 17:28:27 EDT 2007

Ed-  I believe this subject is going to be discussed at the next conference.  That was one of the things the AC agreed needed to be done despite the proposal not being accepted.  I do not know when in the agenda it is slated for discussion, but maybe Ray or someone from the ARIN staff can confirm.

Marla Azinger

-----Original Message-----
From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of
Edward Lewis
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:33 AM
To: ppml at arin.net
Cc: petition at arin.net
Subject: Re: [ppml] Initiation of Petition was Re: Proposed Policy: IPv4
Countdown - not accepted by AC as formal policy proposal

Okay, so this is what my "petition/protest" mail was all about:

 From before (to make sure it counts under the rules):

I would like to voice a qualified "I object" to this rejection.

I would like to see some discussion on this, even though I comprehend
the reasons given below for the rejection and acknowledge that they
are valid.  My motivation for speaking up is to see if there might be
a way that the spirit of the proposal can be pushed forward in ARIN
even if the particular proposal has mechanics that are problematic.

At this point, I don't have a specific recommendation, just wanted to
say that there might be a reason to reconsider this, perhaps in
another form.

At 16:57 +0900 3/14/07, Toshiyuki Hosaka wrote:
>Dear All,
>This is a formal petition request to advance the policy proposal 
>entitled "IPv4
>Countdown Policy Proposal". The full text of the proposal is posted 
>on the ARIN
>website at the following URL:
>   http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/ppml/2007-February/006000.html
>This policy proposal was to respond in an orderly way to the 
>upcoming exhaustion
>of the IPv4 address space. The AC rejected this proposal due to anti-trust
>issues however I strongly believe that we should discuss this kind 
>of policy in
>the ARIN open policy forum, rather than simple rejection, since IPv4 address
>exhaustion is so important issue to the whole community.
>According to the Internet Policy Evaluation Process, people who wish 
>to document
>their support for the petition must do the following within the next 
>five (5) days:
>   1) post a response to the Public Policy Mailing List stating their
>      support for the proposal,
>    and,
>   2) send email to petition at arin.net with full point of contact
>      information, including their telephone number and organizational
>      affiliation.
>If you have any questions about this process you can refer to the ARIN website
>at http://www.arin.net/policy/ipep.html for the full text explaining the
>petition process.
>Thanks and best regards,
>Toshiyuki Hosaka <hosaka at nic.ad.jp>
>Member Services wrote (2007/03/03 2:47):
>>  On 1 March 2007 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) concluded its review of
>>  the proposed policy 'IPv4 Countdown' and did not accept it as a formal
>>  policy proposal.
>>  The AC rejected this proposal having taken into consideration the
>>  anti-trust issues raised by the ARIN General Counsel and because the AC
>>  deemed the proposal to be contrary to ARIN's mission.
>>  During the initial review period the AC may decide to:
>>  1)  Accept the proposal as a formal policy proposal as it is presented,
>>  2)  Work with the author to clarify, divide or combine it with another
>>  proposal, or
>>  3)  Not accept the policy proposal.
>>  In the event that the AC decides not to accept the proposed policy, then
>>  the author may elect to use the petition process to advance the
>>  proposal. For petition details see the section called "Petition
>>  Process" in the ARIN Internet Resource Policy Evaluation Process which
>>  can be found at:
>>  http://www.arin.net/policy/irpep.html
>>  The deadline for the author to initiate a petition per the ARIN Internet
>>  Resource Policy Evaluation Process is 40 days prior to the meeting; the
>>  petition deadline for the ARIN XIX Public Policy Meeting
>>  is 14 March 2007. If the author chooses not to petition or the petition
>>  is unsuccessful, then the proposed policy is closed. If a petition is
>>  successful, then the proposal will be numbered and posted for discussion
>>  and presented at ARIN's Public Policy Meeting.
>>  The proposed policy text can be found at:
>>  http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/ppml/2007-February/006000.html
>>  Regards,
>>  Member Services
>>  American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
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