[ppml] [GLOBAL-V6] How to get a IPv6 /32 the cheap way: go to AFRINIC

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Fri Jun 22 11:17:32 EDT 2007


You need to read all the policies before making such statements. For example
that explains the /32 in LACNIC.

RIRs can be considered, and in fact they are, critical infrastructures, and
in some regions, then they get a /32, and while you can't warrantee that a
/48 will be filtered, I agree that a /32 is the right size for any critical
infrastructure.

Regards,
Jordi




> De: Jeroen Massar <jeroen at unfix.org>
> Organización: Unfix
> Responder a: <jeroen at unfix.org>
> Fecha: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:18:25 +0100
> Para: <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
> CC: <ppml at arin.net>, RIPE Address Policy <address-policy-wg at ripe.net>, "IPv6
> in Africa <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>" <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>, APNIC
> IPv6 <global-v6 at lists.apnic.net>, Nick Hilliard <nick at inex.ie>,
> <aalain at trstech.net>
> Asunto: Re: [GLOBAL-V6] [ppml] How to get a IPv6 /32 the cheap way: go to
> AFRINIC
> 
> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>> Jeroen,
>> 
>> This is just ridiculous.
> 
> What is ridiculous is that /32's are getting wasted and will never be used.
> What is also ridiculous is that RIR policies are trying to avoid end-sites
> getting /48's in some places who need it to 'control routingtable entries'
> but then this shows up as a full /32 that never will be used.
> 
> Now *THAT* is what is ridiculous.
> 
> I have no problem at all with an organization receiving a justified /48, but a
> /32 for an organisation that will never ever use more than a /40 is
> ridiculous.
> 
>> All the RIRs have their own /32 for their internal usage.
> 
> APNIC has one indeed: 2001:dc0::/32 but the rest doesn't.
> ARIN has a 2001:500::/48 which is more correct, they won't need much more.
> Where exactly is the one for RIPE, ARIN and LACNIC? See that is not !ALL!
> 
> RIPE even went so far to use 2 /48's (SURFNET+BIT) to avoid coming into the
> mess of being preferential to themselves.
> 
> Also, since when is a RIR special in anyway?
> Also, since when do those networks justify the need of 65536 /48's?
> 
> The point is not about AFRINIC, it is about wasting address space without
> justification.
> 
> Alain Patrick AINA wrote:
>> This does not meet the requirements above. So you won't get it.
> 
> It fully does, how else did AFRINIC assign a /32 to themselves?
> 
> Nick Hilliard wrote:
>> Frankly, I fail to see the problem here.  IMO, bona-fide LIRs should be
>> entitled to an ipv6 allocation under these terms at least in the RIPE
>> region.
> 
> I agree that when an organization can justify (using HD ratios etc) the need
> for address space that they will fully be able to get that address space
> without any issues. But is AFRINIC (10-50 people) able to justify a /32 based
> on that?
> 
> Greets,
>  Jeroen
> 




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