[ppml] Suggestion for ARIN to deligate smaller IP blocks
bmanning at karoshi.com
bmanning at karoshi.com
Thu Jun 7 20:06:00 EDT 2007
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 07:19:13PM -0400, John Santos wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, Paul Vixie wrote:
>
> > > The magic words, "private network", appeared in the next paragraph
> > > you snipped, don't remember if I made it clear I was talking about
> > > private internets, not intranets.
> >
> > what's a "private" internet?
>
> I mean an internet (a network of networks) between different
> organizations, but not (directly) accessible to the Internet.
> Connections could be via private lines, VPN tunnels over the
> public Internet, dialup, or whatever.
in this case, where (I)nternet is defined as the network
you are on. this "private" (i)nternet is filtered from
you and your PERCEPTION of what the (I)nternet is.
> Much has been made of the definition of "the Internet" as the largest
> set of host defined by the relation "reachable by each other" (as I
> understand it) in some recent posts. There are many other internets,
> networks encompassing cooperating entities, which contain hosts that
> are not reachable from the Internet at large but are reachable by each
> other, and which have some hosts that are part of "the Internet." They
> need non-colliding addresses. RFC1918 might work fine, if a single person
> or group were managing address assignments (and the private internet were
> small enough), but I'm talking about intERnets, not intRAnets, that is,
> these networks belong to and are managed by different people, groups,
> companies, or organizations, so RFC1918 addresses are very likely to
> collide. Assigning unique addresses to all the involved organizations
> would prevent the collisions. I realize that given the pending crunch
> in ipv4 addresses, it may not be possible/practical to assign even /24's
> to all organizations who might need them, but there is *no excuse* for
> not allowing for this in ipv6. Whether it is ULA-C or PI is immaterial.
>
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