[ppml] Policy Proposal 2007-15: Authentication ofLegacyResources

william(at)elan.net william at elan.net
Wed Jul 25 18:33:15 EDT 2007

For legacy people willing to sign RSA but "worried" about $100 fee
you may want to consider sending letter asking to confirm address & 
contact data (they would have to return some form back or go to some 
webpage) and if they do it once/year within say a month of receiving 
letter then you can consider giving them $100 discount off this 
maintenance fee that year :)

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Howard, W. Lee wrote:

>> Actually Stephen. While I support all your arguments (and
>> Owen's POV as well), *I* do have a problem with a $100/yr fee
>> when I get almost
>> *nothing* in return. I hardly think RDNS costs $100/yr to
>> hold my records*. And trying to extort that much money for
>> such a nominal service is, well, extortion. Or would be if it
>> actually mattered all that much.
>> * - and before you point out that ARIN's $10M/yr buget does
>> all sorts of other "good" things, not one single "good" thing
>> affects those end-users who are not growing their networks.
>> If you want to get into a discussion on what's "fair", ask
>> yourself if it's "fair" that all your membership pays
>> excessive fees that are used to subsidize new requests.
> I'll take the blame for the $100.
> One reason for it is so that there's an annual transaction,
> so ARIN gets a contact who actually exists, checking whois
> records, etc.
> In addition to reverse DNS, ARIN maintains Whois.  Even if you
> never use Whois, it is for the public good, used by all kinds
> of people to fix brokenness and find bad guys.  Some folks
> update whois and IN ADDRs more than others.
> You may not care about the public policy process and members
> meetings, which is of course a substantial part of ARIN's
> mission.  You might be interested in ARIN's outreach programs,
> training, and education of governments and other organizations.
> ARIN also provides support to some Internet organizations that
> work for the common good, and provides support to ICANN.
> Even for end-users who aren't growing their networks, ARIN
> helps keep the Internet stable.
> Having said all of that, I'm always open to suggestions.  As
> a steady-state end-user with a pre-ARIN assignment, what do
> you think would be fair?  What should ARIN provide you, at
> what cost?
> Lee Howard
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