[ppml] Dean Anderson, 130.105.0.0/16 and the future of the IPv4 Internet.

[James Hess]

On 7/24/07, Dean Anderson <dean at av8.com> wrote:

> I dispute that. ARIN is required to perform the services that IANA has
> delegated to it.  Legacy services are part of that delegation. This is
> like saying ARIN has no obligation to cart the boxes of legacy records
> to a new office. Or to convert legacy records to a new electronic
> format.  Any service that required, ARIN is required to perform for
> everyone.

Any service that required, ARIN is required to perform for everyone... but only
under the same terms. Legacy assignees that have not signed an RSA are not
operating on the same terms, in fact, a legacy assignee by definition has no
agreement for  "services" to  be provided.

ARIN may by policy choose to provide the same services, but this is different
from being obligated to someone else to do so.

In that regard, the obligation for ARIN towards legacy holders is to
follow its own policies and mission/purpose

RIR obligations are spelled out by the ASO MOU and the numbering
policy of ICANN, very basic requirements.  It would be a choice of
ARIN by policy whether additional
services are performed for legacy holders, without signing of a RSA.

However the requirement for equal treatment of all organizations
making requests of a
RIR (like a request for a certificate), would suggest that ARIN should
require a RSA to
be signed before providing the service, unless ARIN were to start
providing a way for
release of "non-legacy registrations" from their RSA, while
maintaining the registration

As a matter of policy, ARIN should be objective and impartial, and
therefore not treat
requestors who are "legacy registrants" with undue favor over new registrants.


> I think you still fail to grasp that ARIN is an agent of IANA, that is
> to say, the US Government; That the records and assignments belong
> ultimately to the government, not to ARIN.

I think you failed to grasp that ARIN is in fact NOT an agent of IANA,
and the fact that a record appears or doesn't appear in a regional registry is
not something the US government has the authority over.

That is a matter between the registry and registrants they serve.


Re-iterating that ARIN is an agent of IANA does not make it true.

Any more than repeating that "Internet is a US government-owned network"
would make it true.

> Advertising someone elses active block would be a civil and/or criminal
> violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and the Wiretap Act. [as
> Chris Morrow discovered for advertising /22 masks to 198.3.136/21, and
> as Martin Hannigan quite nearly found out for advertising a route to
> Sanford Wallace's net block in 1996. If I hadn't met Hannigan at the

Not necessarily.

> I don't think I'll be asking for a certificate. But I expect if ARIN
> offers certificate services, other Legacy holders might want
> certificates, and will be entitled to the same services as everyone
> else.

They will be entitled to the same services as everyone else, but only
if they also
sign the same agreements, that everyone else has signed, in order to subscribe
to the additional services.

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-J