[ppml] Policy Proposal: Global Policy for the Allocation of the Remaining IPv4 Address Space

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Tue Jul 24 13:50:09 EDT 2007


But the answer is still simple in any case:

Before we run out of addresses, move to IPv6, so the *possible* period of
time when IPv4 addresses aren't available from the RIRs but may be still
required becomes so short that is not an issue.

Regards,
Jordi




> De: Roque Gagliano <rgaglian at antel.net.uy>
> Organización: ANTELDATA
> Responder a: <ppml-bounces at arin.net>
> Fecha: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:06:30 -0300
> Para: Andrew Dul <andrew.dul at quark.net>
> CC: <ppml at arin.net>
> Asunto: Re: [ppml] Policy Proposal: Global Policy for the Allocation of the
> Remaining IPv4 Address Space
> 
> Andrew, here are my answers,
> 
> On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 11:06 -0800, Andrew Dul wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not sure this policy is necessary.  I don't specifically think
>> there is anything wrong with the current policy.
>> 
>> RIRs could develop their own "end of IPv4 allocation schemes" even if
>> the IANA to RIR policy was not changed.
> 
> Why should they do it? with the current policy RIRs are encouraged to
> consume as many addresses as possible until the IANA pool exhausts.
> 
> The proposed policy eliminates the pressure on the central pool at IANA
> and allows each RIR to develop its own policies on how are they going to
> distribute its last allocation (probably more conservative policies). It
> will also be a clear message to the rest of the community about how the
> IANA pool will be distributed and by doing that avoiding discussion
> outside the RIR environment.
> 
> Probably we should also ask ourselves: What may happen if we just do
> nothing about this issue?
> 
>> RIRs use IPv4 resources at different rates due to the different sizes
>> of the communities they represent. This policy will artificially
>> extend the availability in some of IPv4 resources in some RIR's, that
>> could lead to RIR shopping.
> 
> We need to take a global perspective on this issue, here I have to
> scenarios:
> 
> 1) If a small RIR run out of IPv4 addresses, the ISPs of that region
> will have problems to get IPv4 addresses from any black or grey market
> because the prices and they will not have other options like recover
> unused IPv4 addresses or legacy space due to the fact that those regions
> have been under the RIR policies and RIR system almost since day one.
> The amount of unused or leagy space is very small.
> 
> 2) If the bigger RIRS run out of addresses and there are available
> addresses at the smaller RIRS. There will be large amount of IPv4
> addresses in the regions of the RIRS that run out. ISPs in those regions
> will have the chance of getting IPv4 addresses from parallel markets,
> legacy or unallocated space.
> 
> RIR shopping could happen in any scenario but at the time they receive
> their last allocation RIR will probably already have in place more
> conservative policies. Particularly in scenario number #1, smaller ISPs
> from smaller countries will be lacking of options, and,the most
> important, in scenario #2 no ISP from the first world will base their
> business in the possibility of getting small amounts of IPv4 addresses
> for a short time from smaller RIRs. They will move to IPv6.
> 
> Regards
> Roque
> 
> 
>> I do not support this policy as currently written.
>> 
>> Andrew 
> -- 
> 
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