[ppml] Does anybody know how to unsubscribe?

Kelley, Vincent, DoIT Vin.Kelley at state.nm.us
Mon Aug 20 16:47:37 EDT 2007

Does anybody know how to unsubscribe?
I've tried a couple of times without success.

-----Original Message-----
From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of
David Schwartz
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 1:10 PM
To: ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [ppml] IPv6 Assignment Guidelines, Straw Man #2

> I don't believe any LIRs should be given more than one PI block from
> which to allocate PA space.
> And, as such, this has two requirements to be a reasonable suggestion:
>     * LIRs should be free to request PI space (the one block they get)
>       that meets their forseeable needs (10 years at least).
>     * LIRs should be free to assign PA space from their PI block as
>       see fit, with no further oversight needed
> ARIN staff should never need to evaluate anything other than initial
> requests, and should be extremely lenient in allocating those. Any
> justification that passes the giggle test, should be fine.

I think this is going in the right direction, but I think it might go
far. I completely agree that more radical thinking is needed in the IPv6
world because addresses simply are not scarce and irrational rationing
cost the community more than any conceivable benefit.

Specifically, I agree that:

1) It is largely senseless to have policies for small allocations from
ISP to their single-homed end users. There is simply no reason to care.
think we pretty much all already agree that this is so at the /48 level.

2) Routing slots are expensive, not address space. With the huge problem
address space conservation removed, we should be able to do a much
job at conserving routing slots.

3) IPv6 allocation can be based on foreseeable need for a decade. This
both from regional registries to LIRs and from LIRs to customers.

But I disagree strongly that a hard and fast "one allocation" rule makes
sense. I also do not agree that you can have a need-based assignment
without any rules for what constitutes need. There will have to be
additional allocations and that means that sub-allocations will have to
reviewed. I don't think you can get around that.


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