[ppml] Policy Proposal: Expand timeframe of Additional Requests
kkargel at polartel.com
Thu Aug 16 14:45:52 EDT 2007
lol, yeah yur right.. I was confused.. my apologies to the list.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Sprunk [mailto:stephen at sprunk.org]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 11:47 AM
> To: Kevin Kargel; ARIN PPML
> Subject: Re: [ppml] Policy Proposal: Expand timeframe of
> Additional Requests
> Thus spake "Kevin Kargel" <kkargel at polartel.com>
> > Being a small ISP this affects me differently. Having a
> /18 of IPv4
> > would incur a fee of about $450 , which wouldn't break the bank
> An /18 costs an ISP $4500/yr today; you're objecting to your
> fees going down to $439.09/yr, a reduction of 90.2%? That
> doesn't make sense to me.
> > but does cause me concern when people want to raise my costs for
> > nothing more than policy reasons. I don't mind paying more
> for added
> > services, but I hate paying more to satisfy somebodies ego.
> Again, your fees would be going down, not up. Also, it's not
> just to satisfy someone's ego but because everyone is
> consuming a limited resource that we're rapidly running out
> of, and it makes sense that everyone pay the same amount for
> consumption instead of letting certain ISPs pay as little as
> 1/9000th of what smaller ISPs pay when they are consuming 80%
> of that scarce resource.
> > If that $.0268 were applied to the IPv6 allocation as well I would
> > surrender my IPv6 tomorrow. That cost would put me out of business
> > and close my doors.
> Obviously the same economics don't apply to v6. A single /48
> would cost
> $32,399,211,965,672,061,882,125.52 at that price, which I'm
> pretty sure would put not just you but the entire industry
> out of business :)
> I don't know if ARIN's current v6 fee schedule makes sense
> either, but it's not a pressing concern at the moment since
> (a) nobody is using v6, and (b) no ISP would be paying v6
> fees today even if they were using it.
> Stephen Sprunk "Those people who think they know everything
> CCIE #3723 are a great annoyance to those of us who do."
> K5SSS --Isaac Asimov
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