[ppml] too many variables

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Fri Aug 10 14:05:37 EDT 2007

>-----Original Message-----
>From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of
>Leo Bicknell
>Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:37 AM
>To: bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com
>Cc: ppml at arin.net; nanog at nanog.org
>Subject: Re: [ppml] too many variables
>In a message written on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 04:21:37PM +0000, 
>bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
>> (1) there are technology factors we can't predict, e.g.,
>>         moore's law effects on hardware development
>Some of that is predictable though.  I'm sitting here looking at a
>heavily peered exchange point router with a rather large FIB.  It
>has in it a Pentium III 700Mhz processor.  Per Wikipedia
>(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_III) it appears they were
>released in late 1999 to early 2000.  This box is solidly two,
>perhaps three, and maybe even 4 doublings behind things that are
>already available at your local best buy off the shelf.
>Heck, this chip is slower than the original Xbox chip, a $400
>obsolete game console.


  I think you should take your old Xbox and load Linux on it,
you can get it here:


  Then load Quagga on that and route your BGP with it, you can
get that here:


  Then when that is up and running call in your router vendor
sales representative and ask him why should all of us bother buying
new routers when we can just use any old Xbox to do the same
thing, faster.

  maybe that might shame them into actually designing product with
-current- technology.

  Is it just me that finds it deplorable that the large router
vendors see fit to charge billions of bucks for technology that
any current microwave oven controller could knock into a cocked hat?


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