[ppml] [Re: IPv6 addresses really are scarce after all]

bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com
Fri Aug 17 17:37:41 EDT 2007


 viable == can actually work in practice.

 please define "large number" - I don't need the whole list,
 but the top ten would be a good start.  One might then ask the
 ARIN community which they prefer over need-based delegation

--bill


On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 02:34:41PM -0700, David Conrad wrote:
> Bill,
> 
> Please define "viable".
> 
> There are a large number of potential distribution models that could  
> be applied depending on that definition.
> 
> Regards,
> -drc
> 
> On Aug 17, 2007, at 2:19 PM, bmanning at vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> >
> >	anyone have any idea on a viable distribution method
> >	OTHER THAN need?
> >
> >--bill
> >
> >----- Forwarded message from Bill Manning -----
> >
> >Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 14:10:10 -0700
> >To: michael.dillon at bt.com
> >Cc: ietf at ietf.org
> >Subject: Re: IPv6 addresses really are scarce after all
> >
> > Michael Dillon sez:
> >
> >"ARIN ... belives IPv6 addresses are ... resources that need to be
> >[distributed] according to need."
> >
> >I guess I have to agree with this sentiment.  If the ARIN community
> >decides there is a better way to distribute IP addresses *OTHER THAN*
> >need, I'd be really happy to hear what that method would be.
> >
> >--bill
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 09:08:43PM +0100, michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
> >>
> >>It seems that someone in ARIN land believes that IPv6 addresses are
> >>scarce resources that need to be carefully dribbled out to customers
> >>according to need. The following proposal has just been formally  
> >>made to
> >>change ARIN's allocation policy.
> >>
> >>------start of copied text------
> >>
> >>Replace the text in section 6.5.4.1 with the following text:
> >>
> >>LIR's may assign blocks in the range of /48 to /64 to end sites.
> >>All assignments made by LIR's should meet a minimum HD-Ratio of .25.
> >>
> >>* /64 - Site needing only a single subnet.
> >>* /60 - Site with 2-3 subnets initially.
> >>* /56 - Site with 4-7 subnets initially.
> >>* /52 - Site with 8-15 subnets initially.
> >>* /48 - Site with 16+ subnets initially.
> >>
> >>For end sites to whom reverse DNS will be delegated, the LIR/ISP  
> >>should
> >>consider making an assignment on a nibble (4-bit) boundary to  
> >>simplify
> >>reverse lookup delegation.
> >>
> >>LIR's do not need to issue all 5 sizes of prefixes as long as the
> >>HD-Ratio requirement is met.
> >>
> >>------end of copied text------
> >>
> >>--Michael Dillon
> >>
> >
> >--bill
> >
> >Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and
> >certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or  
> >otherwise).
> >
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