[ppml] Consensus and voting: a proposal

Scott Leibrand sleibrand at internap.com
Sun Oct 1 22:01:46 EDT 2006

Randy Bush wrote:
> Scott Leibrand wrote:
>> Overall I like Sam's proposal.  Would it be possible to do a 
>> procedural experiment at the upcoming ARIN meeting?  Specifically, if 
>> the person running the straw polls thinks it would be helpful, could 
>> they try asking for straw polls on specific points of objection 
>> (raised in discussion or on PPML) if the first straw poll shows 
>> enough objection to indicate a lack of consensus?
> what about those supporting also having to justify their support?  
> goose and gander and all that?
Often the justification for support will be "I agree with what's in the 
justification section of the policy proposal".  If we could get 
similarly detailed justification for opposition (which we usually do, in 
the form of a PPML post), and then could see how many people oppose the 
policy for each different reason (Sam's proposal) we'd be in a better 
position to know which direction to take the policy proposal in order to 
achieve consensus.

So I see a few different (possibly somewhat overlapping) categories:

    * I support the policy proposal, for the reasons outlined in its
      justification section.
    * I largely support the policy proposal, but for reason X (where X
      has already been presented to PPML or to the mic).
    * I oppose the policy proposal, for reason Y (where Y has already
      been presented to PPML or to the mic).
    * I oppose the policy proposal, for reason Z (where Z has already
      been presented to PPML or to the mic)...

This seems to me very much like the way the Supreme Court comes to 
decisions.  They have someone writing for the majority, sometimes have 
justices voting with the majority but with their own justifications (and 
writing their own opinion), and one or more minority opinions written by 
and voted for by those opposing the majority's view.

But all in all, we don't need something quite so complicated.  :)  If we 
could simply get different straw polls to gauge *why* people oppose a 
policy proposal, that would definitely help move the policy proposal 
toward consensus.


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