[ppml] 2006-7 IPV6 Initial Allocation suggested changes-Input Requested

Bill Darte BillD at cait.wustl.edu
Tue Nov 14 09:09:47 EST 2006

I largely agree with Michael on this.

If ARIN assesses that an application for v6 address space is legitimate
and timely (within a year), then I believe an allocation can be made.
Part of that assessment may constitute need for ASNs, etc. depending
upon the business plan and architectural model presented.

Bill Darte
Washington University in St. Louis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net] On 
> Behalf Of Michael.Dillon at btradianz.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:41 AM
> To: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [ppml] 2006-7 IPV6 Initial Allocation suggested 
> changes-Input Requested
> > d. be an existing, known ISP in the ARIN region OR be an 
> organization
> which
> > can justify intent to announce the requested IPv6 address 
> space within
> one
> > year.
> This is the best of the lot. No need for an ASN since
> ISP startups have never needed an ASN to get IPv4 
> allocations. No need for language about contracts and 
> documents since this already is part of the IPv4 inital 
> allocation process.
> But, I also think that it is unneccessary to mention 
> announcements since ISP startups have not had that 
> requirement with IPv4. Not all network architectures require 
> address ranges to be 
> announced in BGP4 and not all BGP4 announcements are visible
> to the so-called public Internet.
> To put it simply, if an organization can show some 
> justification that they are operating or about to operate an 
> IPv6 network which supplies connectivity services to the 
> networks (IPv6 or not) of other organizations, then this 
> should be enough to give them an IPv6 ISP allocation. The 
> whole reason for the distinction between allocation and 
> assignment in IPv4 was that ISP networks connect 
> other networks and therefore are constantly growing at a rate 
> faster than end-user networks.
> We have to be careful that we are not just tinkering with 
> language here or we will create more problems. The meaning 
> and intent behind the language are what is important.
> --Michael Dillon
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