[ppml] "Recommended Practices" procedure

Scott Leibrand sleibrand at internap.com
Thu Jun 29 17:58:32 EDT 2006


On 06/29/06 at 5:52pm -0400, Marshall Eubanks <tme at multicasttech.com> wrote:

> Hello;
>
> On Jun 29, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry, I made an unstated assumption that you're buying transit
> > from two transit providers who don't have any transit providers of
> > their own, just peers.  IOW, tier 1 NSPs.  Can you enumerate any
> > failure modes in that case, or were you just talking about
> > reachability problems for tier 2 NSPs?
>
> I think that any policy that relies on distinguishing between Tier 1 and
> Tier 2 should be automatically out of bounds. Every time the subject
> comes up on (say) NANOG it generates much heat but little light, and I
> know of no tool to enable me to check independently whether or not a
> salesman's claims here are accurate.

I'm not proposing a policy, I'm proposing text for a "Recommended
Practices" document.  If we want to eliminate the "distinction" between a
transit-buying and transit-free transit provider (which IMO is a valid
technical distinction, egos, tier labels, and salesmen aside), then you
simply need to expand the recommendation to say something like this:

To multihome with PA space, you must ensure that your transit providers,
and any of their transit providers (recursive), accept your /48 from each
other.

Still pretty simple, no?

-Scott



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