[ppml] 2003-3

[Owen DeLong]

Same thing that happens when the customer moves... The whois record
should be updated to reflect the new data.

Owen

On Jan 19, 2006, at 9:06 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:

> So, what happens when the ZIP code changes ?
>
> Marshall
>
> On Jan 19, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Azinger, Marla wrote:
>
>> Below is a short discussion on 2003-3 that was not posted to ppml
>> by accident on my part.  I now post this for involvment by anyone
>> else interested:
>>
>> Regards
>> Marla Azinger
>>
>>
>> ****************************************
>>
>> No.  Now you've allowed them to eliminate everything except the ZIP
>> code.
>>
>> First, let me say that I do not think that there is any flaw in the
>> current
>> policy or ARIN's interpretation thereof, except that I would rather
>> preserve
>> the Name as a visible object.
>>
>> However, if we are going to further reduce the usefulness of whois, I
>> would
>> rather constrain that reduction to the smallest amount possible.
>>
>> An acceptable rewording might be:
>>
>> Section <insert number here> of the NRPM is modified to allow
>> residential
>> customer postal codes in Canada to be abbreviated to the first three
>> characters of the Postal Code.  Further, it is clarified that in the
>> US, the 5 digit ZIP code is acceptable for all entries.
>>
>> That is a policy I would not oppose.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Azinger, Marla wrote:
>>
>>> So would a reasonable rewording of this proposal be the following:
>>>
>>>      An organization with downstream residential customers may
>>>      substitute that organization's name for the customer's name,
>>>      e.g. 'Private customer - XYZ Network', and the customer's
>>>      address may be replaced with 'Private Residence', excluding
>>> the zip code.
>>>      Non specific Zip codes must be included and specific building/
>>> structure location zip 	codes are not to be sumbitted.
>>> Specification of specific versus non specific zip code 	is country
>>> dependant. Each private downstream residential reassignment must
>>> have 	accurate upstream Abuse and Technical POCs visible on the
>>> WHOIS record for that
>>>      block.
>>>
>>>
>>> Marla Azinger
>>> ELI and Frontier
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> Owen DeLong
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:45 PM
>>> To: Member Services
>>> Subject: Re: [ppml] Proposed Policy: Residential Customer Privacy
>>>
>>>
>>> I absolutely oppose this policy as written.  Excluding the entire
>>> address
>>> removes the possibility of using the small claims court process as a
>>> means of remedy for network abuse, at least in several states within
>>> the united States.  I think that would be an undesirable policy
>>> effect.
>>>
>>> Removing the City, State, and Postal code information would also
>>> reduce
>>> the availability of useful data for geographic address distribution
>>> research which has been identified as valuable by several
>>> participants
>>> on the list and at previous policy meetings.
>>>
>>> I would be more willing to accept a policy which allowed limitation
>>> of ZIP codes to 5 digit ZIP codes or limitation of Canadian Postal
>>> Codes to the first 3 characters.  These modifications should be
>>> sufficient to address the privacy concerns raised in recent
>>> discussions
>>> on the list.
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
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