[ppml] 2003-3

Azinger, Marla marla_azinger at eli.net
Thu Jan 19 11:56:51 EST 2006

Below is a short discussion on 2003-3 that was not posted to ppml by accident on my part.  I now post this for involvment by anyone else interested:

Marla Azinger


No.  Now you've allowed them to eliminate everything except the ZIP  

First, let me say that I do not think that there is any flaw in the  
policy or ARIN's interpretation thereof, except that I would rather  
the Name as a visible object.

However, if we are going to further reduce the usefulness of whois, I  
rather constrain that reduction to the smallest amount possible.

An acceptable rewording might be:

Section <insert number here> of the NRPM is modified to allow  
customer postal codes in Canada to be abbreviated to the first three
characters of the Postal Code.  Further, it is clarified that in the
US, the 5 digit ZIP code is acceptable for all entries.

That is a policy I would not oppose.


On Jan 18, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Azinger, Marla wrote:

> So would a reasonable rewording of this proposal be the following:
>      An organization with downstream residential customers may
>      substitute that organization's name for the customer's name,
>      e.g. 'Private customer - XYZ Network', and the customer's
>      address may be replaced with 'Private Residence', excluding  
> the zip code.
>      Non specific Zip codes must be included and specific building/ 
> structure location zip 	codes are not to be sumbitted.   
> Specification of specific versus non specific zip code 	is country  
> dependant. Each private downstream residential reassignment must  
> have 	accurate upstream Abuse and Technical POCs visible on the  
> WHOIS record for that
>      block.
> Marla Azinger
> ELI and Frontier
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of
> Owen DeLong
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:45 PM
> To: Member Services
> Subject: Re: [ppml] Proposed Policy: Residential Customer Privacy
> I absolutely oppose this policy as written.  Excluding the entire
> address
> removes the possibility of using the small claims court process as a
> means of remedy for network abuse, at least in several states within
> the united States.  I think that would be an undesirable policy  
> effect.
> Removing the City, State, and Postal code information would also  
> reduce
> the availability of useful data for geographic address distribution
> research which has been identified as valuable by several participants
> on the list and at previous policy meetings.
> I would be more willing to accept a policy which allowed limitation
> of ZIP codes to 5 digit ZIP codes or limitation of Canadian Postal
> Codes to the first 3 characters.  These modifications should be
> sufficient to address the privacy concerns raised in recent  
> discussions
> on the list.
> Owen
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