[ppml] Collapsing Residential and Business Privacy (ease of use) Was: Re: Privacy of Non-Residential Reassignments in Public Whois

[Divins, David]

Do irresponsible ISPs SWIP correctly to begin with?  It seems to me that
any policy movement here is to help responsible parties comply.  The
irresponsible ones don't care, they do what they want and that's that.

The reality is a customer that I am concerned about using SWIP for will
never be seen un-obfuscated in whois--period, under any policy
construct.  That said; what I am looking for is a way as a responsible
party to have a mechanism to deal with these "corner cases" in an
appropriate manner.  This may be a wacky case for a lot of people but it
is a majority of my customers.

I do not have all the answers but I believe there is something that can
be done in this space.

-dsd

-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 3:31 PM
To: Divins, David; Martin Hannigan; ppml at arin.net
Subject: RE: [ppml] Collapsing Residential and Business Privacy (ease of
use) Was: Re: Privacy of Non-Residential Reassignments in Public Whois



--On April 19, 2006 9:48:20 AM -0400 "Divins, David"
<dsd at servervault.com>
wrote:

>> I strongly oppose this provision.  There is no reason to remove
address
> accountability from business orgs 
> 
> If Whois contains accurate contact/abuse info, how is this obscuring
> accountability? If there is abuse report it to the contact.  A
> responsible ISP will handle that request.  If the complaint is not
> handled to your satisfaction-- block the ISP at the FW level like many
> do to APNIC providers.  Also, you are assuming these reassignments are
> being used for transit services, what about content providing.  There
is
> often little to no initiation from content provider based
reassignments.
> 
The large number of IRRESPONSIBLE ISPs are the concern here. There's
simply no reason that a business is, in my opinion, entitled to
anonymity
of their IP addresses. Unless the ISP has power of attorney to accept
process service of my law suit, the business should have to be listed
by address so I know where to send the process server.

Owen



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