[ppml] [narten at us.ibm.com: PI addressing in IPv6 advances in ARIN]

[Peter Sherbin]

> In the grand scheme of things there is no fair way to judge who initiated
> traffic flow in any particular direction, so fine-grained per-flow volume
> based charging is not operationally deployable.

As a financially conscious ISP I want volume based pricing as the major marketing,
product development and ROI tool.

Peter

--- Tony Hain <alh-ietf at tndh.net> wrote:

> Owen DeLong wrote:
> > ...
> > On the internet, there simply isn't a good mechanism for tying either
> > end of the connection to who should pay for it.  To further complicate
> > this matter, there is the issue of spoofed address traffic.  Should
> > I really be billed for someone originating a terrabyte of traffic I
> > didn't know existed, just because they picked one of my IP addresses
> > at random?
> 
> In general I agree with your post, but this point seems like it need some
> further thought. Say there were a settlement process in place. A transit
> provider would look to the volume over the interconnect, likely not at the
> source address. This would follow down the chain until the loop provider was
> left to sort out which customer it came from. Their first inclination would
> be to look at the address, but if spoofed would likely not even be one of
> their customers. This would lead them to argue that the upstream was wrong,
> then when pushed back to eat the bill, they would have to implement strict
> RPF at their customer edges to block the nonsense. They might also move to
> volume charging on each loop which would pass the cost along to the real
> source. Assuming the spoofed traffic was from a zombie, it would provide the
> cost incentive to get the machine cleaned up. 
> 
> In the grand scheme of things there is no fair way to judge who initiated
> traffic flow in any particular direction, so fine-grained per-flow volume
> based charging is not operationally deployable.
> 
> Tony
> 
> 
> 


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