[ppml] Privacy of Reassignment Information

[Azinger, Marla]

no.  I was talking about residential.  sorry

-----Original Message-----
From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of
Divins, David
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:24 AM
To: ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [ppml] Privacy of Reassignment Information


Just to repeat, we are talking about corporate privacy:

I would be happy with:

Private Company
20166
UpStrean Abuse contact info 

-dsd

David Divins
Principal Engineer
ServerVault Corp.
(703) 652-5955
-----Original Message-----
From: Azinger, Marla [mailto:marla_azinger at eli.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:12 AM
To: Aaron Hughes
Cc: Christopher Morrow; Divins, David; ppml at arin.net
Subject: RE: [ppml] Privacy of Reassignment Information

I agree we need policy that gives residential privacy but at the same
time supports the "research" community.  

ie Mandatory info is:

Residential
23456
upstream abuse contact info

or 

Residential
3V6 (hope I got that right.  Not sure if canadian postal starts with
number or letter) upstream abuse contact info

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Hughes [mailto:aaronh at bind.com]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:03 AM
To: Azinger, Marla
Cc: Christopher Morrow; Divins, David; ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [ppml] Privacy of Reassignment Information


Marla, agreed.

The current methodology is simply to lie, so while several people may
have issues with protecting this data, we need to find a way to create a
policy to allow for this privacy in order to get accurate data imho.

Aaron

On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 07:56:34AM -0700, Azinger, Marla wrote:
> I'm not sure if I interpreted Davids question correctly.  However,
RWHOIS does not permit Privacy that isnt allowed on ARIN WHOIS.  The
information on RWHOIS should be identical to what would be on ARIN
WHOIS.
> 
> Marla
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:ppml-bounces at arin.net]On Behalf Of

> Christopher Morrow
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:42 AM
> To: Divins, David
> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [ppml] Privacy of Reassignment Information
> 
> 
> On 4/7/06, Divins, David <dsd at servervault.com> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > Provided an ISP, or other direct assignment recipient, supplies 
> > valid and responsive (24x7) Abuse, NOC, and other pertinent contact 
> > information, a reassignment should be allowed to remain private.
> >
> > This has been discussed before and abandoned 
> > (http://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2004_6.html).  However, I feel

> > this issue needs to be raised again as it is more important than
ever.
> >
> > There are ample valid reasons for a reassignment to remain private.
> >
> > ISP's may not want their customers to be mined via a public service.
> > Many companies only use their assignment for private business 
> > exchanges and do not want a public vector into their block.  HIPAA 
> > clearing facilities, banking exchanges, procurement systems are all 
> > example of viable private reassignments.
> >
> 
> I might have missed something in the policy and this note... but, 
> doesn't the ability to use rwhois and limit access to 'arin' solve 
> this privacy issue as well? With this capability perhaps the need to 
> construct policy around privacy of information isn't necessary?
> 
> -Chris
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