[ppml] Re: Re: 2005-1:Multi-national Business Enablement

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Sat May 7 02:57:31 EDT 2005

You are absolutely correct, Daniel.  Thanks.


--On Tuesday, May 3, 2005 23:01 +0200 Daniel Roesen <dr at cluenet.de> wrote:

> On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 10:05:20PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote:
>> > Without sensible policies, I won't be getting IPv6 at home (or at
>> > work, if 2005-1 doesn't pass) at all.  It's not routing or transit in
>> > the core that we're waiting on now -- it's address policies at the
>> > edge.
>> 2005-1 is not for the home. 2005-1 is for organizations (read:
>> businesses) that have a need for multihoming, that means multiple
>> separate physical upstreams and a vast userbase and LIR membership.
>> Or are you going to polute BGP with /128's ?
> Did you actully read 2005-1?
> 2005-1 refers to "end-site organizations", not businesses. I don't think
> that Owen meant "businesses" when he wrote "organizations". This "only
> big business shalt be independent" thinking is a disease.
> Further, there is no requirement for either "separate physical
> upstreams", "vast userbase" or "LIR membership" in there. Not even
> implicitly derrived from ASN assignment policy, as you need none of
> those to qualify for an ASN.
> For recollection, here is the proposed policy text of 2005-1 again:
> <cite>
> 6.11 Assignments to End-sites with Autonomous System Numbers
> Any end-site which meets the current criteria for assignment of an
> autonomous system number (ASN) shall also qualify for one IPv6 prefix
> assignment of the minimum size justified under the ARIN guidelines for
> assignment by an LIR. If the organization grows to require more space,
> it will not be entitled to an additional block, but rather may obtain a
> new, replacement block of sufficient size to meet its needs in exchange
> for making the commitment to return its existing block within 24 months,
> so that it may be reassigned.
> </cite>
> Regards,
> Daniel

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