[ppml] Re: Re: 2005-1:Multi-national Business Enablement

Lea Roberts lea.roberts at stanford.edu
Tue May 3 18:43:03 EDT 2005


Daniel (et al) -

the original 2005-1 did not receive overwhelming support from the
community, so it will be revised in keeping with the feedback given in
Orlando.  there will probaboy need to be a much higher bar to get through
the process at this time....			sorry,		/Lea


On Tue, 3 May 2005, Daniel Roesen wrote:

> On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 10:05:20PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote:
> > > Without sensible policies, I won't be getting IPv6 at home (or at work, if
> > > 2005-1 doesn't pass) at all.  It's not routing or transit in the core that
> > > we're waiting on now -- it's address policies at the edge.
> >
> > 2005-1 is not for the home. 2005-1 is for organizations (read:
> > businesses) that have a need for multihoming, that means multiple
> > separate physical upstreams and a vast userbase and LIR membership.
> > Or are you going to polute BGP with /128's ?
>
> Did you actully read 2005-1?
>
> 2005-1 refers to "end-site organizations", not businesses. I don't think
> that Owen meant "businesses" when he wrote "organizations". This "only
> big business shalt be independent" thinking is a disease.
>
> Further, there is no requirement for either "separate physical
> upstreams", "vast userbase" or "LIR membership" in there. Not even
> implicitly derrived from ASN assignment policy, as you need none of
> those to qualify for an ASN.
>
> For recollection, here is the proposed policy text of 2005-1 again:
>
> <cite>
> 6.11 Assignments to End-sites with Autonomous System Numbers
>
> Any end-site which meets the current criteria for assignment of an
> autonomous system number (ASN) shall also qualify for one IPv6 prefix
> assignment of the minimum size justified under the ARIN guidelines for
> assignment by an LIR. If the organization grows to require more space,
> it will not be entitled to an additional block, but rather may obtain a
> new, replacement block of sufficient size to meet its needs in exchange
> for making the commitment to return its existing block within 24 months,
> so that it may be reassigned.
> </cite>
>
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
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