[ppml] Deaggregation in the ARIN region Was: [nanog] The Ci dr Report

[Hannigan, Martin]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ppml at arin.net [mailto:owner-ppml at arin.net]On Behalf Of Jon
> Lewis
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 1:12 PM
> To: Andrew Dul
> Cc: ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [ppml] Deaggregation in the ARIN region Was: [nanog] The
> Cidr Report
> 
> 
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Andrew Dul wrote:
> 
> > I was wondering if people in the ARIN region agreed with 
> these statements
> > about the ARIN region not doing enough to educate the 
> membership about
> > deaggregation, BGP annoucements etc...
> >
> > If ARIN were to do more what would you suggest?
> >
> > 1. More/Better online training
> > 2. Regional Training session (similar to RIPE?)
> 
> Whether or not ARIN actually did any training courses, it 
> would be nice to
> see some info on BCPs for BGP routing in the training section 
> of the ARIN
> web site rather than just "how to use whois" and "how to jump 
> through the
> hoops to get IP space".

Not a bad idea, but don't confuse apathy with responsibility. 
Aggregation isn't a new concept.

> 
> Too many networks deaggregate their announcements for no reason simply
> because they don't realize there's any reason they shouldn't.
>
> Covering things like route filtering (i.e. not leaking 
> provider A's routes
> to provider B) would be nice.  Might even mention the use of routing
> registries (radb, altdb, ARIN's own one, etc.).
> 
> To make a bad analogy, right now, ARIN's like a gun shop 
> selling guns with
> no manuals and no safety literature.  Not everyone who's 
> buying knows how
> to use them safely.

I would be a good idea to ask the operators/NANOG to get this into 
their BGP BoF curriculum and have it stay there.

http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0501/smith.html

About ARIN says:

"and supports efforts to keep the global routing tables to a manageable 
size to ensure information can be routed over the Internet."

What more could ARIN do other than send in the leg breakers?

-M<