[ppml] Policy Proposal 2005-2: Directory Services Overhaul
iggy at merit.edu
Mon Apr 18 09:27:59 EDT 2005
Actualy I think there are ligitamate reasons that a POC may not be
responsive for as many as 3 months. The policy proposal is unclear if this
must be consecutive months or not, but this too is somewhat irrelevant.
Consider a small special purpose school that may not operate for the whole
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > Let me get back to a specific part of this policy proposal that I
> > like...
> > "Third parties may report the inability to make contact with a party via
> > information in the APID. In this case ARIN shall attempt the contact
> > verification procedure for that contact immediately. If a response is
> > received, ARIN should document that a problem occurred, and the response
> > from the resource holder. Offenders who fail to respond to third parties
> > more than 4 times per month for three months may have their resources
> > reclaimed at the discretion of ARIN staff." I belive that there are
> > I suggest to you that there can be valid re-assignments of ARIN
> > resources, that may for a varitey of reasons become non-responsive for
> > preiods of a month or longer, and should not constitute anything close to
> > being grounds for reclaimation or maybe not even be grounds for
> > 'suspension'(depending on how that is defined). Consider something such
> > as a seasonal business, or a very small busines where possibly the entire
> > staff is gone for a month or more. (possibly a small family based
> > business, etc...) Well, you say ARIN staff can use there 'discretion' to
> > determin that this is something that doesn't constitute a offense. I say
> > that there shouldn't be room for ARIN staffs descretion... The only reason
> > for reclaiming resources based on 'inaccurate' or 'non responsive'
> > contacts, is FRAUD, which is legaly defined.
> And it doesn't... It requires 4 times per month for three months. There's
> legitimate reason for a valid POC for a network resource to be unreachable
> for 3 months solid. A Seasonal business should have a responsive backup
> POC from their upstream or such. Otherwise, the rest of the world is
> expected to live with their resources being abused while they aren't
> I think that is bad for the world.
> If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me.
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